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03-16-2008, 10:04 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Inland Empire | | | You gamers got nothing on this guy.
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Let’s start by setting the record straight. I’m a Muslim. I’m not a Terrorist nor do I have any criminal record of any kind. I believe that the events of September 11th, 2001 were horrible and I do not support their perpetrators in any which way. I love Canada and plan on living here for the rest of my life if I can help it.
It might also be good to point out that I’m a big fan of the multi-player part of Call of Duty 4. I’ve played it for 50+ hours and have already unlocked all of the challenges and all the weapons (and am now just trying to max-out head-shots for the golden weapons). I’ve played many First Person Shooters and have to admit that Call of Duty 4 offers enough innovation to keep me interested and coming back for more.
I hadn’t even tried the single-player mode up until today. I’ve seen preview videos of Call of Duty 4 and came to my own conclusions about it before I even played the game. I was born in Iraq and much of my family still lives there. Call of Duty 4 partially takes place in an un-named Islamic state that bears more than a passing resemblance to modern-day Iraq. Also, the subtitle “Modern Warfare” is a clue in itself to the location of the action.
My family and I were never supporters of Saddam Hussein. Quite the contrary, I have family members who were executed by him for being part of the Iraqi resistance. We were very happy to see him deposed and executed. But we’d be even happier now if the Americans left Iraq. As much as the mainstream media is trying to convince the world to the contrary, there is no civil war brewing in Iraq. Shias and Sunnis in Iraq have been living in peace, and repeatedly inter-marrying, for centuries. My extended family is predominantly Shia even though I personally am not.
It is common knowledge now that there never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and nor has there ever been. The majority of the world deemed the invasion illegal and groundless. As I understand it, the majority of Americans want an end to the war as well.
That said, I cannot support a war in Iraq in any way. And no, I do not support the American, British, and Canadian troops who are there. How can I support an army waging a war I oppose? The thought it ludicrous. I don’t wish death on them, I just want them to peacefully go (and come) home.
Call of Duty 4 has you fight “the good fight” as an American Marine or a British SAS agent in circumstances that resemble the current war too closely. I felt sick to the stomach shooting down digital representations of Muslims fighting in their own streets with inferior weaponry. I couldn’t get past the first desert map and I don’t intend to try again, my heart still hurts from when I tried the first time.
I felt almost the same way but, regrettably, not as intensely when I played Ubisoft’s Ghost Recon: Avanced Warfighter I & II. They pit you, American Special Forces, against Latin-American revolutionaries of all people! I felt sick to the stomach then, but kept playing. Why is it that Vietnamese are never depicted as the bad guys in video games? Because that was a war the world would rather forget. If Infinity Ward had more foresight they would have seen that the Iraqi War will undoubtedly fall into this category in the future.
It’s really a shame because the multi-player part of the game is solid. I’ll continue to play that but will leave the single-player to both those with a stronger heart, and to the heartless….
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I blew away countless Americans in GTA. Maybe I should get upset too!
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03-16-2008, 10:39 AM
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Why is it that Vietnamese are never depicted as the bad guys in video games?
| i guess he never played battlefield 1942 or Battlefield Vietnam
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03-16-2008, 10:42 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harpers Ferry WV | | Two things that gamer and this picture have in common, anyone take a guess what they are?  | 
03-16-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fenderhutz Two things that gamer and this picture have in common, anyone take a guess what they are?
| Well, obviously they both have a little man in a basket blowing smoke up their butt, ...but I can't figure out what else they have in common. 
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03-16-2008, 11:06 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torrance, CA | | | He's only dogging on the single player mode because he doesn't agree with how it's represented. He actually plays the multiplayer modes of the games he mentions.
Actually this guy is much more articulate and understandable than most gamers. He has a rant, but he presents it in an intelligent manner without resorting to useless slang or cursing. It's a more interesting read than most gaming blogs or forums. | 
03-16-2008, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HollowBassman Well, obviously they both have a little man in a basket blowing smoke up their butt, ...but I can't figure out what else they have in common.  |
Both full of hot air is one. | 
03-16-2008, 11:12 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | i'd be more sympathetic to his point of view if he didn't equate supporting the troops with supporting the war. that's a juvenile thing to do - the troops deserve our support even if we don't agree with how they are being used.
then again, if he put even a passing effort into understanding the story of the single player COD4 he'd realize that it was about a russian ultra-nationalist who gave a nuke to an arab revolutionary (the bad guys are more akin to the chechens and al-qaida than what's going on in iraq - more like if saddam had been killed by al-qaida and they took over before the u.s. invaded).
so, in that light, i must nominate this individual's "rant" as F.O.T.D. (tm) (that'd be FAIL of the day).
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03-16-2008, 11:14 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harpers Ferry WV | | | It just really seems to me that he is trying to pull sympathy from a hot button topic right now. | 
03-16-2008, 01:04 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Inland Empire | | It's offensive but he's played it for at least 50 hours.  | 
03-16-2008, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fenderhutz Two things that gamer and this picture have in common, anyone take a guess what they are? | 
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03-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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03-16-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by syciprider | What he is saying is he'd rather be killing White Christians in America than Arab Muslims in the Middle East.... is that too much too ask?  I ask you who is the bigot here, not I  ....... Not I .....
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03-16-2008, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fenderhutz Both full of hot air is one. | Actually the picture isn't full of hot air. The Balloon is. *adjusts his glasses*
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I wonder if the kid complained about how Blacks were portrayed in San Andreas, probably not.
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03-16-2008, 01:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Thomas, OK | | | I can see his point, but to me where it fails is the fact that he plays the multiplayer, which have Arab and US/British forces as enemies depending on the mode. Also, if a game trully offended me in the way this one does him, I would refuse to play the multiplayer for that fact as well because if you still play the multiplayer youre still supporting the game that offends you.
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03-16-2008, 01:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ventura County | | | I think the gaming industry is ****ed up for forcing him to buy a game he knew nothing about and also could learn nothing about, not even on wikipedia.
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03-16-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaMale What he is saying is he'd rather be killing White Christians in America than Arab Muslims in the Middle East.... is that too much too ask?  I ask you who is the bigot here, not I  ....... Not I ..... | Im happy as long as Im killing anything. 
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03-16-2008, 02:48 PM
|  | *******er Emeritus(does anyone remember that? No?) | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Houston, Texas | | | This is almost as dumb as that one group that claimed the Resident Evil series was racist because the yet to be released Resident Evil 5 will feature mostly black zombies. Well, the game takes place in Africa, what do they expect? Parts 1-3 had only white zombies, was that racist? Part 4 had Spanish zombies, is that racist too?
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03-16-2008, 02:53 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Inland Empire | | What about the Doom demons? Who's speaking for them?
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03-16-2008, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by john turner i'd be more sympathetic to his point of view if he didn't equate supporting the troops with supporting the war. that's a juvenile thing to do - the troops deserve our support even if we don't agree with how they are being used.
then again, if he put even a passing effort into understanding the story of the single player COD4 he'd realize that it was about a russian ultra-nationalist who gave a nuke to an arab revolutionary (the bad guys are more akin to the chechens and al-qaida than what's going on in iraq - more like if saddam had been killed by al-qaida and they took over before the u.s. invaded).
so, in that light, i must nominate this individual's "rant" as F.O.T.D. (tm) (that'd be FAIL of the day). | +1
IIRC, the first few missions in COD4 are not even from the perspective of the Marines. Also, the game in no way makes the conflict seem like "the good fight." The Marines get blown away by a nuclear explosion and every British character with the exception of the protagonist is murdered.
The writer seems like the type that looks for things to upset him.
Slight derail,
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03-16-2008, 03:31 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | I have Muslim friends and I loved shooting muslims in COD4. I also love it in Army of Two where the Iraqis are even more poorly armed and even run at you attempting to blow you (and themselves) up. Army of Two also explicitly states that you're in Iraq at the time of the war. It's almost cartoonish, but I love the carnage.
Of course, this does not make me anti-muslim or whatever. I just like videogames, and if you mess with the good guys, prepare to have it handed to you. Anyone who messes with an American, British or Canadian Solider in the middle east is messing with the good guys, who are just trying to bring a little peace to that part of the world. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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