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06-08-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chef FourString  Most bullies are softies. Pain is a major fact in this. Why stop at pinning him down in front of everyone when you can pin him down and make him cry in front of everyone? Take advantage of the human body to humiliate him. The way he did to others. He showed no compassion when making a grandstand to his dominance, why should he be shown any type of sympathy? Don't break anything, unless that's what he has coming, but twist the hell out of him. | Eh, we differ in opinions. i tend to fight, and teach others to fight, with the psychological impact in mind, more than the physical aspect, while still protecting the kids from as many repercussions as possible. Simple restraint methods get the message across, while making it VERY difficult for a school to tell anyone that your child reacted in a method that was inappropriate.
plus, you then have a leg to stand on when you inevitably have to go to school and yell at the teachers and principal... more of one, at least, than you would have if your kid just started whalin' on the guy.
That said, i can still cause a ton of pain while i've got somebody in a hammerlock or a full nelson. (or full nelson or master lock, as i've always known them :P) It's all in the execution. But humiliation hurts far more than physical pain. make humiliation your weapon, and you won't have to fight very much.
As for verbal abuse... well, that's when you goad them into throwing a punch. it's very simple to make a bully so enraged they blindly start swinging. |
06-08-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Saint
Eh, we differ in opinions. i tend to fight, and teach others to fight, with the psychological impact in mind, more than the physical aspect, while still protecting the kids from as many repercussions as possible. Simple restraint methods get the message across, while making it VERY difficult for a school to tell anyone that your child reacted in a method that was inappropriate.
plus, you then have a leg to stand on when you inevitably have to go to school and yell at the teachers and principal... more of one, at least, than you would have if your kid just started whalin' on the guy.
That said, i can still cause a ton of pain while i've got somebody in a hammerlock or a full nelson. (or full nelson or master lock, as i've always known them :P) It's all in the execution. But humiliation hurts far more than physical pain. make humiliation your weapon, and you won't have to fight very much.
As for verbal abuse... well, that's when you goad them into throwing a punch. it's very simple to make a bully so enraged they blindly start swinging.
| I think we agree more than you think. I didn't mean to imply to stand over the kid and start stomping him in. That is not what I ment. Restrain with whatever hold or bar you can lock them in and apply force or a twist to a nerve cluster when they squirm. I get it. Fighting is much different than ending a fight. You don't have to become violent, just know how to react to an assault. I could care less if the school thinks my child "beat someone up" when all they were doing was defending themselves. Sometimes people don't keep their word when they say they've had enough and you let the go. It's all circumstantial. |
06-08-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chef FourString I think we agree more than you think. I didn't mean to imply to stand over the kid and start stomping him in. That is not what I ment. Restrain with whatever hold or bar you can lock them in and apply force or a twist to a nerve cluster when they squirm. I get it. Fighting is much different than ending a fight. You don't have to become violent, just know how to react to an assault. I could care less if the school thinks my child "beat someone up" when all they were doing was defending themselves. Sometimes people don't keep their word when they say they've had enough and you let the go. It's all circumstantial. | yeah, i've been in those fights where the kid says they've had enough, and then turn around and charge me while my back is turned. after that one, all bets are off and i will cause as much pain as i physically can while mostly trying to protect myself... but at that point, i will typically go for a straight up body slam. simple to execute, and eminently painful. |
06-08-2012, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake Saint
yeah, i've been in those fights where the kid says they've had enough, and then turn around and charge me while my back is turned. after that one, all bets are off and i will cause as much pain as i physically can while mostly trying to protect myself... but at that point, i will typically go for a straight up body slam. simple to execute, and eminently painful.
| Yes, sir. I'm glad we are in concurrence with each other. I too have been sucker punched a few times after letting up. It didn't work out so well for most of them. Didn't send anyone to the hospital and hardly ever drew blood but it took a few people to prop them back up. I like to think I know when to stop.
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06-08-2012, 01:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belleville,New Jersey USA | | | Taught all of my kids walk away when you can if you can't if anyone attempts to attack, do what you need to do. Oldest boy is a brown belt, younger boy is green as is his sister. My message to them if attacked strike fast and strike hard.Only one ever to get into a fight was my older guy one punch defused the entire situation yeah he got suspend.Him and the guy are best buds now go figure.
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11-30-2012, 07:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jonesboro, Arkansas | | | Fetal position? Really? Wow. What an absurd response! You mean lay there and take a beating? IMO as a trained martial artist, I would respond aggressively if need be, to defend myself. There are many less aggressive but effective techniques( wristlocks, chokes,pressure points etc) that can subdue an attacker without actually striking them. But if need be, I'm in favor of ending a physical altercation as quickly as possible with any means necessary. The biggest travesty I see these days seems to be the schools have cowards for leaders in many cases, as they are afraid to punish the bully's and hold bully's accountable. There are anti-bullying laws, but are seldom enforced it seems. |
11-30-2012, 07:40 PM
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11-30-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck norriss Sweet poetic justice when a bully or big mouth gets knocked the F out. See youtube. | +1! |
12-01-2012, 12:23 AM
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Hatred obscures all distinctions. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South of LA | | | The good Lord wants us to love our enemies more than those close to us. Cowardly no. Bullies are sick people that need help.
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12-01-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by guy n. cognito My kids are being taught that they should never start a fight, but they are allowed to defend themselves violently and aggressively if attacked. | This. My kids were also taught that it is OK to exercise restraint initially. Don't go to blows over something someone says.. be when it comes down to it defend yourself. Vigorously. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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