|  | | 
08-04-2004, 06:29 PM
| | Guest | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN | | | A feller would be surprised what he can get on his back. I used to carry 8 foot by 1 foot cedar logs to my camp in the woods (lived there for a couple years), on my shoulder. I weigh in at 135 lbs. I couldn't do that now! And that's a puny load by most standards.
Sign in to disble this ad
|
08-04-2004, 06:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: self banned from talkbass.... | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bob Branstetter I think the over riding factor that is going to decide all of this is the old law of supply and demand as well as simple economics. As Damon pointed out, the price of wood is going to go up. You can bet your life savings on that one. When the price gets high enough, companies like Weyerhaeuser will be forced by simple economics to adjust the price to the tree's quality and its projected use. Those Alaskan spruce trees that are currently being ground into pulp will become far too valuable for that use. Companies are going to go where the profit is the highest. Grinding up a $1,000 tree to make $5 pulp would make no sense. Engineered farm trees could fill that niche at a far cheaper price.
In the end, it will be the marketplace of commerce (not the government nor regulations) that is going to decide the future of quality trees, whether it is for basses or widgets. | Nicely put, I agree completely. |
08-04-2004, 06:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: self banned from talkbass.... | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Maestro Just think how this guy feels? | I'd rather not  |
08-04-2004, 07:03 PM
| | Guest | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN | | | Me either! Anyway, here I holler about spruce, when my bro Dick in ME. has an entire island all to himself, covered with it, in northwestern ME. So much so that he build a large log cabin just out of what's on the island. (Hauled the logs up the island with a come - along). I don't know if any of it's fit for fiddles, though. I know that's about all there is, spruce. A few mi. from Canada. Might orta look into that. |
08-04-2004, 07:03 PM
|  | Journeyman Clam Artist Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, baby | | | Ya skid 'em in the winter time over the snow. Folks used to use horses to get into some awful tight places.
Or there's FedEx.
__________________
There's a joker in every deck... |
08-04-2004, 08:02 PM
| | Guest | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN | | | Yeah, we could do that, if they can swim. There may be a month or two where you could get 'em across the ice. Everything goes over by boat or canoe. No motor vehicles allowed (State prperty surrounds the island). Dick's got one of those "mini skidders" - ever see one? Small manufacturing outfit, I think. Last time I saw it he had two stereo speakers hitched up so he could listen to Mozart. But everything on the island has to be done the hard way. |
08-04-2004, 09:38 PM
| | Guest | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN | | | Y' know, now that I think it over, I may give that bro too much credit. He's plenty bright, o' course, but maybe not to clever. Even though the hoss don't swim and the skidder won't fit in the boat - seems to me that a feller coulda harnessed up a moose, who never really have much trouble making it over to the island. I may mention that to him if it comes to takin' some spruce off it. If there's any fit for a bass fiddle front, anyway. |
08-05-2004, 10:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada | | | Slightly off- topic...
In the late '70's or early '80's I had occasion to drive eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway through southern Manitoba and northern Ontario just after the road had been reopened after having been closed due to forest fires. It was very strange- the air had a strong, smoky smell, everything on both sides of the road had been almost completely consumed, some areas were still smouldering. There was only the odd charred trunk dotting the landscape. Looking through the windshield was like watching a black and white movie.
Very sobering.
Far too many hectares of valuable forest are lost every year to fires caused by human stupidity.
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Last edited by Eric Jackson : 08-05-2004 at 10:58 AM.
|
08-05-2004, 11:45 AM
|  | Official Forum Flunkee | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | It's not all bad
Quote: |
Originally Posted by Eric Jackson In the late '70's or early '80's I had occasion to drive eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway through southern Manitoba and northern Ontario just after the road had been reopened after having been closed due to forest fires. It was very strange- the air had a strong, smoky smell, everything on both sides of the road had been almost completely consumed, some areas were still smouldering. There was only the odd charred trunk dotting the landscape. Looking through the windshield was like watching a black and white movie.
Very sobering.
Far too many hectares of valuable forest are lost every year to fires caused by human stupidity. | But you also have to remember that fire is a natural part of the forests growing process. Some seeds depend on fire to signal them to start growing. I live about 4 hours from Yosemite and there's always some sort of fire raging. Usually in Yosemite it's managed fires but usually started by lightning rather than accident. But if you keep preventing fires from happening and don't clear the downed trees and brush, then you get the big fires like the ones in LA & San Diego last year. Last year I drove through several areas in Yose where it was not only smouldering, but the entire hillside was still burning. Quite surreal. It basically burned for the entire summer although it was managed the entire time, but it's important for the Forests health overall.
Forests also tend to recover from fires quite fast, the low brush comes back within a couple of years and tho some of the trees are burned, they usually still alive and will continue growing anyway if they're big enough. It's the big bad fires that are the worst, they kill the trees and don't give them a chance.
Last edited by hdiddy : 08-05-2004 at 12:03 PM.
|
08-05-2004, 12:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Eric Jackson In the late '70's or early '80's I had occasion to drive eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway through southern Manitoba and northern Ontario just after the road had been reopened after having been closed due to forest fires. It was very strange- the air had a strong, smoky smell, everything on both sides of the road had been almost completely consumed, some areas were still smouldering. There was only the odd charred trunk dotting the landscape. Looking through the windshield was like watching a black and white movie.
Very sobering.
Far too many hectares of valuable forest are lost every year to fires caused by human stupidity. | I remember that. Spooky. I used to make that trip every summer on fishing trips. One thing I recall was that on the year following the fires, there were hundreds of acres of thumb-sized blueberries on those fields, as far as the eye could see. This was actually a bit earlier in my case, probably the mid-60's.
Last edited by Marcus Johnson : 08-05-2004 at 12:16 PM.
|  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | |
