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Old 08-09-2006, 10:09 AM
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My mother wears combat boots

Must have been my comment about Gary's mom.

Here's a picture of my mom's feet:

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Old 08-09-2006, 11:44 AM
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Sorry, I don't think I understand.
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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I do. What a fun ride it was, too.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:01 PM
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Red face lol

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Must have been my comment about the army boots.
Don't know, never met your mom...

I thought it was my comment about the Free advertising 101.

That struck a nerve if you read his follow up.

Anyway, I prefer quality and survival in business in life no matter where or how the Bass is made. Life is tough enough without trying to fly without wings!
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:03 PM
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I think it was the arrangement of Kumbayah!!
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:09 PM
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I think it was the arrangement of Kumbayah!!

Lynne's, or the hippie chick's?

FWIW, I think that the discussion was interesting, but the accusations were uncalled for.

Hint.

Hint.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:19 PM
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Cool You don't?

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Sorry, I don't think I understand.
Being in CT, I thought you would have felt the shock waves.

There was a Thread spawned out of another Thread (New Standard vs. Upton Hawkes) that got into a long heated discussion about being able to make everything in USA and compete with the Chinese and Eastern Europeans.

People were mostly curious and supportive of the hopeful wishes of Upton but a few including mainly me didn't think it was possible to pull off.

I have been down that road on the BG side in my business (started in 1978) and have seen every level and country of making. I sell all over the world and have friends that head up companies in many countries. When you have as many mentors as I have had, you start seeing things in a more clear survival mode rather than dreams that may or may not come true.

I have heard so many stories of success and failure that I could easily write a book or two about it. Although many or most of my comments was viewed as negative, it was more so intended to 'err on the side of caution'.

My comments come from decades of experience from my own as well as other business heads of big and small companies.

One time at a trade show in Chicago I was with 3 friends at a Golf Course. They were Jim Dunlop (Dunlop Mfg.), Helmut Schaller (Schaller of Germany) and Toshio Moridaira (of MMI-Japan, Importer, Exporter, Mfg. and subcontractor for many brands over the years including Fender and Ovation).

This is only an example of the people I have hung out with in the music industry. I can name more famous industry names I have known personally but I am just trying to make a point. Even though I start out trying to be polite about my ideas, feeling and experience it always comes out looking arrogant in the end as I fight disagreement.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:40 PM
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Even though I start out trying to be polite about my ideas, feeling and experience it always comes out looking arrogant in the end as I fight disagreement.
Disagreement is what makes for healthy discourse. It is not something to fight.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KSB - Ken Smith

I have been down that road on the BG side in my business (started in 1978) and have seen every level and country of making.

I sell all over the world and have friends that head up companies in many countries.

When you have as many mentors as I have had, you start seeing things in a more clear survival mode rather than dreams that may or may not come true.

I have heard so many stories of success and failure that I could easily write a book or two about it.

One time at a trade show in Chicago I was with 3 friends at a Golf Course. They were Jim Dunlop (Dunlop Mfg.), Helmut Schaller (Schaller of Germany) and Toshio Moridaira (of MMI-Japan, Importer, Exporter, Mfg. and subcontractor for many brands over the years including Fender and Ovation).

This is only an example of the people I have hung out with in the music industry. I can name more famous industry names I have known personally...
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:10 PM
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Shall we make a rule that before we resume the same sniping as before, we must each post a picture of our mother's footwear? Why yes, let's.

Here's the pair mom loaned me to go to my first Kiss concert when I was 13:

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Old 08-09-2006, 01:13 PM
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Must have been my comment about Gary's mom.

Here's a picture of my mom's feet:


That's a heckova edit, Chris! I thought my mom had those pics expunged from the net, although mebbe it was just the x-rated ones.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Angry Foot wear..

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Shall we make a rule that before we resume the same sniping as before, we must each post a picture of our mother's footwear? Why yes, let's.

Here's the pair mom loaned me to go to my first Kiss concert when I was 13:


I'm not much of a Shoe kinda guy. All my years in Karate, Judo and Tae Kwon Do I was barefoot.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:37 PM
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I'm not much of a Shoe kinda guy. All my years in Karate, Judo and Tae Kwon Do I was barefoot.
Likewise all my years of Aikido. Still, a silly thread needs silly pics, what?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:06 PM
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Talking Defense skills

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Likewise all my years of Aikido. Still, a silly thread needs silly pics, what?
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I'm not much of a Shoe kinda guy. All my years in Karate, Judo and Tae Kwon Do I was barefoot.
I heard an old saying once that went this way:

Were you needing those defense skills because your mouth was writing checks that your A$$ couldn't cash?

No offense intended for either party. This IS an off-topic silly thread ain't it?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:30 PM
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I heard an old saying once that went this way:

Were you needing those defense skills because your mouth was writing checks that your A$$ couldn't cash?
Nah, I'd just always been interested. Once I discovered an art that was "punch free", I decided to try it and found I liked it. I plan to take Judo with my son when he's old enough to start, even though I hear tall guys spend a lot of time on their ***es in Judo. Bottom line, I think the defensive arts are good for the soul in that they teach balance and respect. I've never had to use any of it in real life since I started.

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No offense intended for either party. This IS an off-topic silly thread ain't it?
None taken...and it certainly is. Beats the hell out of contentious flame war, dunnit?
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:37 PM
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Not my mother but my cousin. No sense of style. Prefers not to wear pants. Has no idea what a double bass is.

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Old 08-09-2006, 02:41 PM
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Ha! I think we all have a cousin like that..
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Old 08-10-2006, 03:48 AM
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Is this youse guys family portrait then?

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Old 08-10-2006, 06:46 AM
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Nah, I'd just always been interested. Once I discovered an art that was "punch free", I decided to try it and found I liked it. I plan to take Judo with my son when he's old enough to start, even though I hear tall guys spend a lot of time on their ***es in Judo. Bottom line, I think the defensive arts are good for the soul in that they teach balance and respect. I've never had to use any of it in real life since I started.



None taken...and it certainly is. Beats the hell out of contentious flame war, dunnit?
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:30 AM
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