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Old 01-30-2013, 01:04 PM
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I hated my MS pre used as a pedal going into the front of my amp. However, bypassing the preamp and using the MS as my preamp sounds fantastic, I sent mine back to Ben to have a voltage switch installed so I can use it for overseas shows (when I don't have access to my normal amp). And the two weeks it was gone everything just sounded so...meh.

Everything is better now that I have it back home.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:10 PM
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Do you have an effects loop return or other line level input you can try? Bypass your amp pre completely...
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:11 PM
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I hated my MS pre used as a pedal going into the front of my amp. However, bypassing the preamp and using the MS as my preamp sounds fantastic, I sent mine back to Ben to have a voltage switch installed so I can use it for overseas shows (when I don't have access to my normal amp). And the two weeks it was gone everything just sounded so...meh.

Everything is better now that I have it back home.

See, I have the Genz Benz SL-900. I think it routes the effects loop through the preamp as welll. I do have my MS-pre routed through the effects loop. I'm going to keep trying things because I know it's good, I just don't hear it yet.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:58 PM
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Also remembering that flat on the EQ is 2,10,2 helps dial in a desirable tone.
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Also remembering that flat on the EQ is 2,10,2 helps dial in a desirable tone.
Funny, I've come out to roughly the same place - I'm more in the 3, 11, 3 range. Still, very close.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:19 PM
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Funny, I've come out to roughly the same place - I'm more in the 3, 11, 3 range. Still, very close.
Just for clarification, I'm saying that bass on 2 (as if you were using fender style 0-10 numbered knobs) mids on 10 (all the way up) 2 on treble is flat on the preamp.

That's not what settings I use, just a great starting point for finding the tone that works best for you.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:21 PM
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I have mine going into the front of the amp on low it sounds good to me anything in my Mesa's loop sounds terrible.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:34 PM
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Also remembering that flat on the EQ is 2,10,2 helps dial in a desirable tone.
how do you know this?

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i want my band to do a split 12 inch with your band.
also, i want to buy all of your vinyl releases.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:13 PM
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He is right about the EQ Ben said he used something similar to the Fender tone stack I don't like the Fender tone stack but Ben has made his version easier to dial in.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:45 PM
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similar to the Fender tone stack I don't like the Fender tone stack

lets pretend i have no idea what this means. because i don't.
how can 2/10/2 be flat? that is some weird ****.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:53 PM
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It is weird I alway have to go google it myself most common tone stacks boost and cut the signal you turn the bass knob you get more bass? and it has nothing to do with the mid or treble level but the Fender tone stack is more interactive when you turn the mids up it affects the treble and bass etc. I'm really butchering the explanation you have to google Fender Tone Stack to get a better understanding that's why I don't like it I have to think .
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:27 AM
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Nick explains it better than I ever could.

Some Discussion on Amp EQs

Also thank you, currently we're solely working on our next full length, not sure when we're goning to be doing another split (we have two coming out soon though).
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nice link. make more sense. not as to why they behave that way but at least as to the way they do behave in real life.

in verellen news, i'm having make me a new pedal. a modified big spider. it's going to take a couple months he says. should be pretty rad if it works out like i want. (i'll probably have a my regular BS for sale when it shows up if anyone is into that type of thing)

also, not sure if i outlined my effects loop pedal i have him build for me. basically it's just a channel switcher for my meatsmoke but with an effects loop built into it so that it activates only on the distorted channel. i like to boost up the dirty channel and didn't want to have to hit multiple pedals for dirt. it rules.

every time i've emailed ben to be like "can you make this thing that exists in my head?" he just says yes and figures it out. it's awesome.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:00 PM
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Nick explains it better than I ever could.

Some Discussion on Amp EQs
Wow thanks for that link! I love **** like that. I'm such a nerd.
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Just picked it up from the post office. First impression: IT'S HUGE! That's a MacBook Pro 13" standing next to it for reference.


Now I just need to solve the huzzle regarding it being the wrong voltage...
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:06 AM
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Now I just need to solve the huzzle regarding it being the wrong voltage...
Oh no! Ben can easily mod the pedal for your voltage. But then you have the hassle of having to send it back

I will see Ben next week. I'll mention to him that he should put that disclaimer on the purchasing page so overseas buyers can ask about getting the pedal modded for their home country.


I think I read somewhere that another person in this thread emailed ben and got instructions on how to mod the pedal themselves for the increased voltage. I would definitely shoot him an email.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:44 AM
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I think I read somewhere that another person in this thread emailed ben and got instructions on how to mod the pedal themselves for the increased voltage. I would definitely shoot him an email.
Yeah, That person was me.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:41 AM
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Yeah, That person was me.
Derp.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:15 PM
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Just ordered my meatsmoke preamp so excited!
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:08 PM
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Just ordered my meatsmoke preamp so excited!
Still getting used to mine. Every hour played on it, I like it more. It's taking me a bit to find that sweet spot.
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