ok so there are 2 questions:
(1)
I can hear a definite octave down effect, but I think there's more in there... perhaps a envelope filter with down sweep and a delay?
http://www.zshare.net/download/559555030d35e345/
(edited: the above URL now links to the direct download site, instead of playback within the browser, friendlier to web browsers that are prone to crashing)
i think it sounds quite close to the Lithium Flower I posted back sometime ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr9bWTQDBjE
starts about 0:10 into the vid.
what do you think?
(2)
I'm trying to get this sound, but if it's an octave down, won't it get too muddy in a band mix? It maybe ok if it was professionally recorded, but in a live mix, these effects will get lost in the mix am i right?