1st Pedal Board, Next level ?'s

[LarryR]

I could use some guidance from you veterans.

Pic / Signal chain: Bass > Tuner > Filter > Compressor > Octave > EQ > Distortion > Flanger > Compressor > Amp pre (Walter Woods stereo head to 2 x Berg 112's).
2x Loop I wanted to use for Octave/EQ and Compressor/Filter.
A/B switch I'm not sure about. I have a gig where I use active and passive basses. But, that creates a problem of all the effects settings acting differently.
Sansamp I plan to incorporate as a useable sound somewhere. It sounds better than the MXR EQ after the Octabass so I may scrap the MXR.
Barge VFB-2 to be incorporated once I figure out............where. Anyone use their Barge as a "Master Blend"?
I have a Countryman DI. Any guys adding one to their boards? I presume it should go last in the chain?
Any guys use passive and active basses on the same gig? How do you manage your pedal settings?

So many questions, some confusion,........

[LarryR]

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[Austin Manny]

Compressor before and after distortion?
Why?

[LarryR]

Originally Posted by Austin Manny

Compressor before and after distortion?
Why?

Compulator before Octave for better tracking. Carl Martin comp at the end of the chain....just another point to add....tightness, maybe some more control? The distorted tone I'm going after is pretty subtle so the comp doesn't increase noise. But, if you see this as redundant I'll kick the CM out and see if it really is needed. Thanks for the thought.

[Sir Edward V]

Originally Posted by LarryR

I could use some guidance from you veterans.

Pic / Signal chain: Bass > Tuner > Filter > Compressor > Octave > EQ > Distortion > Flanger > Compressor > Amp pre (Walter Woods stereo head to 2 x Berg 112's).
2x Loop I wanted to use for Octave/EQ and Compressor/Filter.
A/B switch I'm not sure about. I have a gig where I use active and passive basses. But, that creates a problem of all the effects settings acting differently.
Sansamp I plan to incorporate as a useable sound somewhere. It sounds better than the MXR EQ after the Octabass so I may scrap the MXR.
Barge VFB-2 to be incorporated once I figure out............where. Anyone use their Barge as a "Master Blend"?
I have a Countryman DI. Any guys adding one to their boards? I presume it should go last in the chain?
Any guys use passive and active basses on the same gig? How do you manage your pedal settings?

So many questions, some confusion,........

well, I would put the octave first in the chain to start off with. If you have the octave and filter on at the same time, placing the octave first will let the octave sound be affected more. Of course there are points to organizing your pedals in any way. A point to keeping it how you have it is that putting the octave on before will affect how the filter reacts to your playing possibly requiring different settings.

putting the octave first in your chain will also help giving it a cleaner sound, possibly making that compressor unnecessary. two compressors is no big deal as long as they serve a separate purpose.

EQ has a purpose when placed anywhere, but I find it to be most useful after all of the effects. This could be why you find it less useful than the sansamp.

I use a blend for my distortions, and my filter and wah, sometimes octave as well. But I run other effects after. using it as a master blend is not out of the ordinary.

if you have the sansamp on your board, then the DI you were talking about is redundant.

my answers are pretty vague, but so are your questions, if you have more specific questions or more comments or anything I will gladly give a more detailed response. It sounds like you are more looking for ideas at the moment though, try just messing around with settings, how you organize the pedals and just anything and everything!

[LarryR]

well, I would put the octave first in the chain to start off with. If you have the octave and filter on at the same time, placing the octave first will let the octave sound be affected more. Of course there are points to organizing your pedals in any way. A point to keeping it how you have it is that putting the octave on before will affect how the filter reacts to your playing possibly requiring different settings. Putting the octave first in your chain will also help giving it a cleaner sound, possibly making that compressor unnecessary.
>>>I tried your idea and hear what you’re saying. Subjectivity reigns though as I switched back to Octave after Filter.

two compressors is no big deal as long as they serve a separate purpose.

EQ has a purpose when placed anywhere, but I find it to be most useful after all of the effects. This could be why you find it less useful than the sansamp.
>>>You’re right. The MXR EQ at the end of the chain is more noticeable. Good call.
I put the Sansamp where I had it (after the Octave) which gives me 2 distinct Octave sounds. Haven’t yet dialed in the MXR as I’m not sure a) it’s needed or b) what I want to do with it yet: to correct signal or to enhance. I’m still on the fence.

I use a blend for my distortions, and my filter and wah, sometimes octave as well. But I run other effects after. using it as a master blend is not out of the ordinary.

if you have the sansamp on your board, then the DI you were talking about is redundant.
>>>Thing is, I have the Sansamp early in the chain used to EQ the Octave. I’d have to have it at the end of the chain to send the whole board out through its DI. Correct? OTOH, I’ve never been on a large stage that couldn’t give me what I wanted as to DI or Mic. Of course I can wait to see the Soundman's face when I bring this board. That look of......."you know what you're doing with it, right???"

my answers are pretty vague, but so are your questions, if you have more specific questions or more comments or anything I will gladly give a more detailed response. It sounds like you are more looking for ideas at the moment though, try just messing around with settings, how you organize the pedals and just anything and everything!
>>>Thanks so much for your generosity. You’ve already made me think about and try things. I’ll admit I was dreading having to break down this board yet again. PedalPad isn’t a piece-a-cake for EZ changes. I see 20' of velcro in my immediate future.

New Wish List:
Ability to use expression pedals.
Multiple blenders. (that Barge sounds GREAT!).
I finally played around with my DDL. Octave up w/Octabass (down) was interesting. For now, I’ve got the DDL and Flanger into the Barge loop, though it’s kind of a waste as these pedals won’t used as much as the others. OTOH, when I do use them I’ll have more control. Did I mention wish I had 3-4 blenders? Should’ve got a customized 2 loop Barge with expression jack. Woulda, shoulda, coulda…..