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08-12-2007, 09:01 PM
| | | | 2 Questions: 1 about Ebows & 1 about DIs.
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Ebow Question:
I've been wanting to pick up an eBow to try some Manring style stuff, but I'm not sure about a few things:
a) Do they work well with bass? I've read a few comments saying they're hard to use on bass strings.
b) What price should I be willing to pay for one off eBay to get a good deal? They seem to attract a lot of bids, and I don't want to get caught in a bidding war and end up paying an unreasonable amount.
DI Question:
What's the best way to get a good tone when plugging directly into the PA? Is a DI enough or should I get something like those Behringer Sansamp knockoffs? | 
08-12-2007, 09:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Union City, California | | | the impression that I get is that Ebows are difficult to use on Bass..but beyond that, u can purchase them....
i think, either, perfectbass, musiciansfriend, maybe even GC...so try online, u can get one for about 80 bucks.
what I do is have my pedal effects, running to a floor unit (behringer) and it splits my signal. One of them goes to my setup, and the rest goes to an MXR Noisegate/line driver. I have amp/cab simulation if i really need it but beyond that, sounds pretty good already. | 
08-12-2007, 09:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX | | | I remember trying an ebow on bass when I had one back in the early 90's and I remember that it didn't work well. I think it just didn't have enough energy to get the bigger strings vibrating enough. Maybe it'd work ok with the G string.
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08-12-2007, 09:52 PM
|  | OVNIFX EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Re: the DI, if your bass sounds good on its own, then all you need is a DI to the PA. If your bass sounds lame on its own, then it will sound lame through a DI to the PA, unless your soundman is clever with processing at the FOH rig. Otherwise you'd need some sort of tone shaping pedal/unit before the DI, or with a DI out like that Behringer/Sansamp. | 
08-12-2007, 10:29 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | if i'm not mistaken, manring uses extremely light guage strings,
which would help alot with the e-bow.... | 
08-12-2007, 11:51 PM
| | | | My guitarist has an EBow, I've tried it many a time. Anything lower than the D string it has a REALLY hard time getting to move (I use 105-85-65-45 gauge). It even has some problems with the G-string. One of my future projects is designing a Bass EBow with a little more power to help get those fat strings movin'. I know there's schems/help online, it's just one of those lower priorities...somewhere between getting married and feeding the dog.
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08-13-2007, 12:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Union City, California | | I think the best solution would be to take up upright bass or cello  | 
08-13-2007, 12:19 AM
|  | Registered User Moderator for EHX Forums | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston/Nacogdoches | | | I've never managed to get my guitarist's ebow to work on my bass
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08-13-2007, 01:08 AM
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I don't remember eBows being difficult to get a sound out of it when held right... I've tried them a few times... some people make "adapters" for them that are basically pieces of plastic that let you rest it on the parallel strings like it does on guitar... this would make it a lot easier!
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08-13-2007, 03:33 AM
| | | I've been doing some searching and Manring apparently uses a string set of .052, .042, .032, and .020 on his hyperbass ...so maybe that helps with his eBow work. He's also said that it requires practice and technique though
They look like they're going for around US$100 on eBay, so all I need now is to find someone who will ship internationally. | 
08-13-2007, 04:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | | I've had no luck with my ebow on bass. It just distorts rather than doing anything useful. I haven't tried it with my light strings yet though.
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08-13-2007, 05:05 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | The eBow is indeed difficult to use on bass but you can get very nice results with practice.
If you "start" the string a bit with hammers you can go decently fast. | 
08-13-2007, 11:51 AM
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08-13-2007, 12:01 PM
| | | | I own the Ebow and it's made for quitar string spacing. It is very difficult to use. | 
08-13-2007, 12:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago, IL | | | if i play mine over my pickups it works beautifully. don't pay more than 100 bucks for one. get a good preamp/di. | 
08-13-2007, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Charm Bracelet DI Question:
What's the best way to get a good tone when plugging directly into the PA? Is a DI enough or should I get something like those Behringer Sansamp knockoffs? | If you have a good soundman who has a decent enough EQ, you can run direct and let him worry about your tone. If you have what I like to call 'church sound guys', you should probably get a BDI21 or a real Sansamp and tell the guy to leave the EQ flat, then go out as far as you can in front of the house system and EQ your tone yourself using the Sansamp.
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08-13-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Charm Bracelet I've been doing some searching and Manring apparently uses a string set of .052, .042, .032, and .020 on his hyperbass ...so maybe that helps with his eBow work. He's also said that it requires practice and technique though
They look like they're going for around US$100 on eBay, so all I need now is to find someone who will ship internationally. | I thought it was $80 new...
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08-13-2007, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL | | | Time to try an Epilady.
If you're a Tool fan, Adam Jones uses an Epilady over his pups and gets a good hum out of it similar to an ebow. Ive seen bassists do this and it sounds...sustained, what can I tell ya.
Also, there are these things called Jellyfish picks which can be used as a bow but I've never tried em since I've not seen em. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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