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Old 02-19-2009, 11:28 PM
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So, I got a friends several year old 4ms stereo panneur to try to fix... the thing was't working, so I gave it an overhaul. New box, some new components and such and threw i together.

Here's the finished pedal (well, I need to find some plastic LED holders).



So, playing around with it the last few nights my impressions are that this thing is amazing. Even with the parts I had lying around I got it sounding great. As straight forward trem its pretty solid, and it goes so much further... it has more knobs than you can shake a duck at, so theres hours of tweaking and almost an ovewhelming amount of possbile setups. Not quite the same quality a my empress but considering the price difference its pretty good. I could probably tweak it a little further to get the wave shapes a little more defined, and the pot values and tapers could maybe get an adjustment.

Then, the extra LFO controlling the rate adds a worthwhile dimension to it. From slowly making the rate warble a bit to really deep sweeps of the speed, it really helps to keep the pedal interesting to hear and to play into. A bit tougher to get rhythmic ways to incorporate into your playing, and probably not too usefull in a straightforward rock kinda band, its a tonne of fun.

I couldn't run it in stereo, but I can see a huge amount of potential with the two parallel channels, some different effects/EQ, and enough free time to twiddle knobs. The big test in stereo is tomorow night, but sadly we'll just have some guitars and drums. No bass.

Even just running the two channels in series made for some weird, but oddly useable settings. Definately easier to use on the guitar, but with some creativity its doable on the bass.

So, If you have some soldering skills and need a trem, give some thought to one of their kits (or even just PCB/Boxes). The basic circuit is a pretty easy and tidy build, even the stereo vesion.

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Old 02-19-2009, 11:43 PM
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very cool
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:03 AM
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I have/love a Lune and a Panneur. So good. 4ms does it right.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:42 AM
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I am also rocking one of the deluxe lune's with the aux lfo. Quite the bitchin pedal
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:03 PM
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I built one of these a few years ago, using 4ms's paper PCB process. It was my first project. Pretty fun.

I liked the pedal, but for all the controls, I could never get a hard square wave on/off cut sound, so I sold it. It's cool that they are doing real PCBs now, that will make the whole thing easier for beginners to get into.
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Old 02-21-2009, 10:12 AM
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Yikes, I don't think I have the patience to deal with that paper method. The firstbuild that my friend tried was done that way, so I salvaged what I could and decided that he extra time wasn't worth the $20 a PCB would cost.

Good to see some other people using them!
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:08 PM
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Well, as I said it was my first build about 5 years ago, so I really didn't know any better. I actually didn't think it was that difficult, and it's much better for the environment if that's of any concern to you. It's much harder on more complex circuits, though, so these days I am using real PCBs.

I have been thinking recently about using that technique, but with clear plexiglas instead of paper. Hmm...
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