add a micro pog or swap around and go bass synth?

[nostatic]

I did a search and pulled up some threads with indirect references, but am wondering if anyone ditched their microPOG for an EHX Bass Micro Synthesizer (or vice versa). I'm finding that I need/want some funky/weird noises for a current gig (as well as some solo acoustic guitar stuff but that is another parallel universe).

I currently have a Menatone MailBomb, Maxon AF-9 and Fulltone Bass Drive. I'm thinking that if I added a microPOG I could get pretty close between those pedals to synthy type stuff. OR, it seems like the Micro Bass Synth will do much/most everything that the combo would do, so I could instead maybe sell the AF-9 and get the MBS (probably keep the mailbomb - I like it).

Pros/cons?

[cheapbasslovin]

These are all apples and oranges. The BassMicrosynth has a very unique filter system. It wont do what the AF-9 or Mail Bomb will do, but the envelope filters wont do what the Microsynth does. The octaves on the Microsynth sound nothing like the POG's do.

The Micropog with those filters could get synthy, but it wont be the same as the Microsynth. You may like it better than the Microsynth (or not) and that is where it gets tricky.

Right now I'm running a Qtron+ in parallel with my BMS.

[Swift713]

+1
The octaves on the micro Pog track much better than those on the BMS but don't sound as warm(?). I also had trouble with the BMS, I don't think it liked my bass, and I wasn't crazy about the square wave. The BMS filter is more of a resonant filter vs. an envelope filter. The modular approach will generally track better and tend to be more reminiscent of a fuzz/wah guitar type sound than a dedicated synth pedal.
IMO/E

[Aram]

Bumps.

My Micro Pog died on a gig last night, and I'm generally getting annoyed with lugging my pedalboard (plus two basses, and amp head) around to gigs these days. It's too heavy, and honestly, doesn't blow me away with the sounds I'm getting. They're decent sounding, they're just too subtle...

Anyway, I was thinking of streamlining my whole pedalboard (which now consists of EBS MultiComp => EBS IQ +> EBS UniChor => Micro Pog => Boss TU => MXR EQ => MXR Bass DI) to just something like a VT Deluxe => EHX BMS. I think that way I could get some more radical sounds, and still retain what I loved about the POG/ChorFlang/Filter combinations in my current setup.

Sorry for the whine, just interested in if people have had a similar experience with downsizing to the BMS to get more radical sounds...

[RFord04]

I have a BMS, and I love it, but I'm actually currently looking to get a new envelope filter (just purchased an EBS BassIQ) and an Octave pedal (I'll probably go with an EBS Octabass, but I'm also thinking about the POG2 or Micro Pog). The BMS sounds great when you use all of its effects together, but if you try to use it for just the octave or just the filter section, it just doesn't quite cut it for me.

cheapbasslovin said it right, apples and oranges.

[Aram]

Originally Posted by RFord04

I have a BMS, and I love it, but I'm actually currently looking to get a new envelope filter (just purchased an EBS BassIQ) and an Octave pedal (I'll probably go with an EBS Octabass, but I'm also thinking about the POG2 or Micro Pog). The BMS sounds great when you use all of its effects together, but if you try to use it for just the octave or just the filter section, it just doesn't quite cut it for me.

cheapbasslovin said it right, apples and oranges.

Thanks for the feedback on that! IMO, go MicroPog if you want an octave...despite it dying on me last night, it tracks way better than the EBS (and I'm generally an EBS fan).

[Unrepresented]

I have a POG, fuzz and filter plus a BMS.

The octave/fuzz/filter combo can do some of what the BMS does, but not nearly as conveniently. Three pedals means a lot more tweaking of levels. More flexibility for sure, but having a single dedicated synth box is a lot easier for dialing something funky on the fly.

To sorta echo what the others have said, the BMS is not the sum of its parts, but an independent beast altogether.

[Aram]

Originally Posted by RFord04

The BMS sounds great when you use all of its effects together, but if you try to use it for just the octave or just the filter section, it just doesn't quite cut it for me.

By the way, could you elaborate on above? Too thin? Bad tracking?

[derekfrank]

I recently did a little video demonstration of my pedal board setup... got a couple cool synth-y options....check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_P8mtj7Rr4
-Derek Frank
http://www.dfrank.net

[RFord04]

Originally Posted by Aram

By the way, could you elaborate on above? Too thin? Bad tracking?

I find it difficult to get a clean sound with the filter section, and the octave just doesn't sound nearly as good to me as any of the other octave pedals I've been considering.