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04-04-2011, 08:25 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CHICAGO | | | Aguilar Pedal design flaw?
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I got an Ocatmizer. Cool, great, can't wait.
One problem. You can't put a right angle patch cables in the in/out! They lip of the pedal won't allow any of my cables to go fully in. I only use a few pedals, so I don't need a pedal board. Are there any decent straight/angle patch cables or straight/straight patch cables out there? |
04-04-2011, 08:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada | | | Have you tried the planet waves right angle cables? They have little more depth to them between the right angle bend and the cable end.
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04-04-2011, 08:47 AM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Yeah I gave Dave a lot of grief about that particular design flaw. His only suggestions were to either find cables with "longer" right-angle plugs, or angle the plugs downward if you're using a Pedaltrain board, through the gaps. |
04-04-2011, 08:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | I'm thinking George L, Lava, or this:  |
04-04-2011, 08:53 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA | | | Yeah, when the Octamizer (and, by correlation, that chassis style) came out, a bunch of people beat up Aguilar for that housing design. In addition to the metal lip that restricts the right-angle plug, the bottom of the housing makes it virtually impossible to secure the pedal to a normal pedalboard without using a foam (or similar) pad or just a stack of velcro to make the attaching surface flush with the bottom pedal flanges. I think Aguilar started including foam pads along with the pedal itself, which was definitely cool of them, but to me it's still a piece of bubble gum in the dam wall... just not a good design IMO.
That said, I have an Octamizer, and I work with its peculiarities because I love the sound. With regard to your issue, I have to make sure that the top end of the Octamizer lines up with one of the horizontal gaps in my Pedaltrain board, so I can run the cables below the board surface. For another board design, this may not work so well.
It would be nice to see Aguilar invest a little bit in a slight redesign to eliminate these issues on future pedals, but I'm sure they have bigger fish to fry in this economy.
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04-04-2011, 09:37 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buffalo | | | Yeah I have no idea why Aguilar would have such a flaw in their design. Where does a lip on all the metal edges actually come in handy? Is it just to make the pedal appear longer? |
04-04-2011, 09:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Netherlands | | | Only thing I can think of that would make them do something as clearly impractical as this is production efficiency. Perhaps those lips are used as a handle for machinery? Or something like that?
Still, even if that were true, it would not justify it IMO. You, as a company, run the risk of less people buying your pedal because of these issues. How many people like the sound of your single pedal SO much, they are prepared to completely rethink/redesign/spend a lot more moolah on the rest of their pedalboard? Just to accommodate your pedal? Flawed design indeed, IMO.
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04-04-2011, 10:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis | | | The cheap little Hosa ($4) patch cables fit in there. Mogami also makes straight 6" patch cables for around $22.
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04-04-2011, 10:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NewYork, NY | | | I'll admit the lip on the pedal is the reason I didn't give the Octamizer a fair chance when I was comparing MXR, EBS, EHX, Boss and FoxRox.
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04-04-2011, 12:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC | | | Agreed. The entire chassis design is really poor and difficult to work with. You'd think it'd be less expensive to retool the chassis than have to include rubber spacer plates for each pedal, and that's not including the silly lip around the jacks. But what do I know? |
04-04-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin I'm thinking George L, Lava, or this: | At least this is an option (that I kind of like - the grooves would ensure that the cable stays relatively still and doesn't rotate in the jack), unlike in the case of my Wasabi Delay. 
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04-04-2011, 01:01 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Portsmouth VA USA | | | My Aguilar TLC is an amazing pedal, but the end lips make it hard to plug in and bigger than it has to be when arranging my pedalboard. It is annoying enough that I am waiting anxiously for the new MXR Bass Compressor. If it turns out to be a good replacement, then it's goodbye Aguilar.
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04-04-2011, 02:20 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Dave explained that their motivation with this design was that it looked rugged, and they were following on the popularity of Radial's DI boxes that have the same sort of casing. The difference of course is that (a) people don't expect to use RA plugs with a DI box, and (b) the Radials have plastic buttons that are protected by the extended lip (and Aguilar pedals do not). |
04-04-2011, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CHICAGO | | | Problem solved! Livewire Elite series has enough clearance. |
04-04-2011, 02:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CHICAGO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by 3tsb Problem solved! Livewire Elite series has enough clearance. | Done! |
04-05-2011, 12:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philly Area | | | I solder all my own pedalboard cables, so I made Right Angle/Straight ones for to and from my Agro, but that makes it take up even MORE space (makes the pedal very 'long' when plugged in...)
Definitely a bad form factor, but one HELL of a badass sounding pedal...
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04-05-2011, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 3tsb Done! | hey, arent' those regular Neutrik jacks?
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04-05-2011, 12:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philly Area | | | Yup. |
04-05-2011, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CHICAGO | | | Yes. Says it right on the plug.
QUOTE=ZolkoW;10701442]hey, arent' those regular Neutrik jacks?[/QUOTE] |
04-05-2011, 12:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philly Area | | | My Instrument cables have those Neutriks on them, but they're pretty darned big for a pedalboard if space is tight (as on most pedalboards...)
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