All the sequencer pedals...

[Mingus Addict]

So there have been some threads trying to list all the "x" pedals, such as all the pedals with tap tempo, etc. I was wondering if we could do one for all the all pedals that have sequencing effects because I am interested in them right now. Here are the ones I know of:

Adrenalinn III
Boss Slicer
Moog Bass Murf (or reg. murf)
ZVEX Ringtone
ZVEX Seek Trem (or tremorama)
ZVEX Seek Wah (or oohwah)

Does anyone know of others?

[whoatherechunk]

i think josh from malekko is doing a sequencing pedal (pure sequencing)......not sure though .....i forgot. haha.

[Mingus Addict]

Yeah, I saw a thread about that, and there are videos on YouTube. It's purely a sequencer though and doesn't process the sound of an audio input.

Anyone have any other suggestions? I was thinking of adding the Subdecay Prometheus and Xotic Robotalk to the list because they do faux sequencer/arpeggio sounds but I don't know if they should really count.

[Chronicle]

Of course the Prometheus should be added to the list. It's freakin' awesome. It samples and holds, another word for sequencing...kind of. If you haven't heard soundclips, they're in my Chronicle of Effects thread in my sig.

[justdave42]

Korg AX3000B

[Malekko]

NAMM

[GingerConor]

whats the word on the SL-20?

[whoatherechunk]

the fm4 has some sequencing stuff that's controlled via expression pedal.

[justdave42]

Originally Posted by GingerConor

whats the word on the SL-20?

I love mine.

[Chronicle]

Originally Posted by justdave42

I love mine.

The Slicer is pretty cool, it could use a little bit more though.

[mikeboth]

Originally Posted by Chronicle

It samples and holds, another word for sequencing...kind of.

No, not the same thing. The final sounds might be similar in some circumstances, but they are not 'the same' in terms of randomness vs deterministic (just for starters).

Prophecysound Infinitphase
(sound of own horn blowing)

[Chronicle]

Originally Posted by unbeliever

No, not the same thing. The final sounds might be similar in some circumstances, but they are not 'the same' in terms of randomness vs deterministic (just for starters).

Prophecysound Infinitphase
(sound of own horn blowing)

yeah that's why i put kind of at the end

[BmoreTele]

In the broadest sense of sequencing/patterns/S&H - add these to the mix:

Alesis Philtre
Alesis Faze
Alesis Ampliton
SE ModMax Phasor
SE ModMax Filter
Boss PH3
Digitech TurboFlange
Digitech HyperPhase
Xotic Robotalk
CoPilot Gyroscope
M-Audio Black Box

[RCCollins]

Aw heck guys at this point you might as well add the ehx polyphase and any other modulation effect with a square wave mode

"sequencing/patterns/sample&hold"? these things are not the same. they sometimes sound the same, but they are completely different types of effects

i think a more practical category (and a more accurate description) would be "stepped effects" - especially since a proper sequencer is only of tangential interest as a bass effect (a CV sequencer can be used as a sort of expression pedal with some devices).

"Stepped effects" would include boxes like the Moogerfooger BassMuRF, the ZVex "seek" effects, etc.

It would NOT include actual sequencers, which are used for synth control/composition. Nor would it include S&H, unless the effect used an actual step control (most S&H is LFO controlled)

I love bass, I love synth, and I love the space in which the two come together. I just don't think its useful to approach topics like sequencing as bass effects without some contextualization at the very least. There has been a lot of synth discussion here lately and while I'm happy to see that, I see a little too much generalization and lumping together in this field, while more traditional effect pedals are given the hair-splitting treatment.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by RCCollins

Aw heck guys at this point you might as well add the ehx polyphase and any other modulation effect with a square wave mode

"sequencing/patterns/sample&hold"? these things are not the same. they sometimes sound the same, but they are completely different types of effects

i think a more practical category (and a more accurate description) would be "stepped effects" - especially since a proper sequencer is only of tangential interest as a bass effect (a CV sequencer can be used as a sort of expression pedal with some devices).

"Stepped effects" would include boxes like the Moogerfooger BassMuRF, the ZVex "seek" effects, etc.

It would NOT include actual sequencers, which are used for synth control/composition. Nor would it include S&H, unless the effect used an actual step control (most S&H is LFO controlled)

I love bass, I love synth, and I love the space in which the two come together. I just don't think its useful to approach topics like sequencing as bass effects without some contextualization at the very least. There has been a lot of synth discussion here lately and while I'm happy to see that, I see a little too much generalization and lumping together in this field, while more traditional effect pedals are given the hair-splitting treatment.

+1 to all of that. Good post.

The ZVex pedals are stepped versions of other effects (wah, tremolo, ring mod) which is very different from how S&H filters work.

[whoatherechunk]

stop teasing us!

Originally Posted by Malekko

NAMM

[Mingus Addict]

Originally Posted by RCCollins

Aw heck guys at this point you might as well add the ehx polyphase and any other modulation effect with a square wave mode

"sequencing/patterns/sample&hold"? these things are not the same. they sometimes sound the same, but they are completely different types of effects

i think a more practical category (and a more accurate description) would be "stepped effects" - especially since a proper sequencer is only of tangential interest as a bass effect (a CV sequencer can be used as a sort of expression pedal with some devices).

"Stepped effects" would include boxes like the Moogerfooger BassMuRF, the ZVex "seek" effects, etc.

It would NOT include actual sequencers, which are used for synth control/composition. Nor would it include S&H, unless the effect used an actual step control (most S&H is LFO controlled)

I love bass, I love synth, and I love the space in which the two come together. I just don't think its useful to approach topics like sequencing as bass effects without some contextualization at the very least. There has been a lot of synth discussion here lately and while I'm happy to see that, I see a little too much generalization and lumping together in this field, while more traditional effect pedals are given the hair-splitting treatment.

Yes, I agree with this. Basically what I'm going for is effects where "x" happens according to the commands of a sequence of steps. "x" is of course some sort of modulation or filtering. I don't care if you want to call them sequenced effects or stepped effects, but I think you get the idea. I think all the effects I listed in my first post meet this criteria, the Slicer being the only iffy one. I will have to check out some of the stuff BmoreTele listed.

[Chronicle]

Originally Posted by Malekko

NAMM

Hope we see a nice long video :]

[RCCollins]

Originally Posted by Mingus Addict

Yes, I agree with this. Basically what I'm going for is effects where "x" happens according to the commands of a sequence of steps. "x" is of course some sort of modulation or filtering. I don't care if you want to call them sequenced effects or stepped effects, but I think you get the idea. I think all the effects I listed in my first post meet this criteria, the Slicer being the only iffy one. I will have to check out some of the stuff BmoreTele listed.

Yeah I read ya, I am basically objecting to the term "sequenced" because this specifically refers to CV or midi programming of a synthesizer.

I mean when I see somebody here getting excited about a sequencer (like the forthcoming Malekko or the voice of saturn kit or whatever) and they are basically looking at it as a stompbox, I mean that's OK I guess (and I know Josh has stated that the malekko sequencer is designed to be useable as a sort of expression control device) but I hope that young bass players are not encouraged to blow a bunch of cash on a device that is really not designed to be an effect AT ALL.

Sequencer = a device for programming a synthesizer, so that it plays a sequence of sounds "automatically" (and some sequencers allow realtime control too)

Step sequencer: a type of sequencer (traditionally using control voltage output) that functions by sending a series of ordered "commands" (midi sequencers dont usually use this, though some exist).

So I can see the BassMurf or the Zvex seek effects as Stepped effects, but not sequencers.

And then there are effects that SOUND sequenced but really arent. I mean, is a tremolo a stepped effect? It is possible to make a trem SOUND like a simple stepped effect, but the steps arent individually adjustable.

Am I being too pedantic here? I mean listen, a phaser can be confused with a flanger (see recent "Stranglehold" threads in this forum) but they are VERY different modulation effects. Flanger can sound like chorus too, but if somebody said they were the same thing here in the TBFXF, peeps would be jumping down his throat.