Andrew's Ultimate Boards Quest! Pt 1 Doublers Imput wanted!

[Andrew Jones]

Hi


Ok so I got some problem solving/Board design to do. I need help.I don't really know the pedal thing well and I want to do it as close to "right" as I can get the first time and move on..

I will use this with a Bergantino IP112 stack. I have at this time a Ampeg SVPCL. A K+K trinity blender. A sans amp BDDI. and a sadowsky Pre. I'm up for purchasing new versions of some of these ie Programmable Sanamp.




My needs may expand/contract as i think this through more.





Pedal board number one will be my every gig small board with a emphasis on multiple (ie 2) electric basses instruments Also a double bass and its mixing signals tuning and EQ needs.

Even though some problems could be solved with instrument knob adjustments IE tone knob...volume knob. I don't want that I want to punch with my feet and play.




Overall:

Switch able between 2 electrics and a Upright

Master DI out

Master tuner (that mutes)

Effects loop for 2nd effects board more on that later different thread.

A master Power supply IE one cord.


For the Electrics I want

1)a "Brown Tone" eq line. IE B15/motown Blues Bass sound.

2)a Clean tone in the Traditional vein Ampeg ish but more sheen and high end than above. this will be my main sound I want it a little Just "tight" on the bottom

3)A Slap EQ / Slight Vol boost.


Upright I want.

A blender with phantom power for a mic imput and onboard EQ.



Now I'm aware of the Bassbone and similar products on the market and am willing to incorporate them but.... not a a sonic compromise . If it can be done in a "better" or more reliable way manner I want to know about it.


Finally I want it all mounted on a one grab out the door board thats a small/light as I can get it.



Thanks for your help.



Aj

[bongomania]

The mic input for the DB is going to be your biggest hassle. There are not many pedal-sized solutions ready-to-use. Raven Labs used to make a small box that would about fit the bill, but they are hard to find. Summit makes their 2BA mic/line blender, a half-rack-width unit. I think Fishman might also have something that would work. Aside from those, you might have to get a small mixer, either with a mic pre built in, or buying a small standalone mic pre to go with it.

None of the options named would have a stomp switch or any of the other features you want, so you'd also have to buy a switcher/router box from Loop-master, Radial, Lehle, Wobo, Barge, etc.

For the electric tone you might look into the ME Submarine, the Barber Linden, the OLC Flipster, and the upcoming new Aguilar Tone Hammer.

[Andrew Jones]

Hi

I'm familiar with the Raven Labs PMB-II and I can substitute a D-tar Solice. Little bulky but probally the thing.

http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml


Yes I assume I'll need a looper type thing and a ABC box type thing and ways of coloring (preamps) the electric's tone. Tuner (wich I have) and sothing with a DI


I'm hoping for some specific ideas on how to run it all together/signal chain



Aj

[bongomania]

Check out the Lehle 3@1. It allows you to switch between three different inputs, and the selected channel is sent to two buffered parallel outputs.

electric --> tone boxes --> channel 1 of Lehle

DB --> blender/pre --> channel 2 of Lehle

Channel 3 of Lehle = mute

output 1 --> DI --> amp and FOH

output 2 --> tuner

Edit: on second thought the mute would also kill signal to the tuner. Hmm...

[Andrew Jones]

Ok, Great, What do I need in order to not run my electrics tone boxes in a tone sucking line like that? I know it's probably a subtle thing and going to triple the size but it's my tone!

I also need to put Two electrics in.



Aj

[bongomania]

Two thoughts: one, either you want tone boxes in your chain or you don't. Two, most of the better-quality tone boxes have a hardwire "true" bypass which greatly reduces the amount of tone suckage compared to old-school Boss/DOD/Ibanez effects you might be used to.

Oh, and a third: There are separate standalone "true bypass" switcher boxes which allow you to put all of your tone devices in a loop and switch them all out of the path at the same time through one junction. It's not perfect, but it works.

[Andrew Jones]

I'm sorry If I'm being confusing or annoying , I appreciate your help.

If I can make it happen I think i want separate loops for my tone boxes. I realize your saying it's subtle and it's not like it used to be but If I can do I'd like to know how.



Aj

[NickyBass]

Have you looked into these: http://musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/pedalracks.php

I have head good things about the OLC Flipster for getting a B15 type tone.

[Andrew Jones]

Bump..... More help?



Aj

[scotch]

Check out LoopMaster for custom loop/switching systems. He can put together a good switching solution for you that combines A/B/C & Loops in one unit. A seperate tuner mute & output is also available in the same unit. It's all true bypass stuff & very well made. It's nice not having everything in your signal chain when you don't want it. I just ordered a box from him to be the "master control" on my pedalboard.

http://www.loop-master.com/

[Andrew Jones]

Hi

I appreciate all the help, What I need though is some one to lay the thing out. Similar to what bongo started but to work with me/it until its what I'm after.



Who's Kung Fu is Strong?


Anyone?



Aj