Any way to do this? M9 content

NicJimBass · #1 06-10-2011, 07:34 AM

I have a Line 6 M9, and I dig it, but I'm curious if what I'd like to do is possible. I bought a Boss LS-2 Line Selector in order to blend a clean signal with the effected signal. What I've found is that running things this way makes the distortions on the M9 much more useable, but with most other effects (modulation and delays mostly) the blended sound favors the clean signal much more, to the point that throwing on a phaser or chorus is barely noticeable. Is there any way to set up my pedalboard so that I can have the blended signal for the distortion and occassional filter, and a 100% effected signal for anything else? I'm trying to set it all up so that I don't have to turn knobs and switch settings to make it happen, which I think is what is going to make this nearly impossible. Any help is appreciated!!

Smurf-o-Deth · #2 06-10-2011, 09:18 AM

No changing of settings? You could do it with an X-Blender for sure, but not with an LS-2.

NicJimBass · #3 06-10-2011, 10:12 AM

I guess what I'm looking for is something that can have one signal in the loop, but allow me to switch between 2 blend options... I don't see that on the X-blender... am I missing something?

stflbn · #4 06-10-2011, 10:21 AM

Here's how I'm doing it.

Black pedal is a small blend pedal that has a large knob that can be adjusted with your foot (easy to do)
The purple pedal is a even smaller expression pedal.

So I use the black pedal to control the blend of overdrives, and if I'm using an octaver or some other effect I'll just dial it up higher. Most effects like chorus and such I make expression pedal settings so there's a slight and heavily effected version depending on how the expression pedal is adjusted.

Between the two I have a lot of control in a small small area.

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NicJimBass · #5 06-10-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stflbn

Here's how I'm doing it.
Black pedal is a small blend pedal that has a large knob that can be adjusted with your foot (easy to do)
The purple pedal is a even smaller expression pedal.

So I use the black pedal to control the blend of overdrives, and if I'm using an octaver or some other effect I'll just dial it up higher. Most effects like chorus and such I make expression pedal settings so there's a slight and heavily effected version depending on how the expression pedal is adjusted.

Between the two I have a lot of control in a small small area.

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Did you buy or build the black pedal? if you built it, would you mind sharing the schematics?

Jared Lash · #6 06-10-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NicJimBass

I guess what I'm looking for is something that can have one signal in the loop, but allow me to switch between 2 blend options... I don't see that on the X-blender... am I missing something?

Yeah, Xotic doesn't do a good job of calling this out in their marketing copy.

The X-Blender's left hand stomp turns the blend on and off. If it's on you get a mixture of wet/dry depending on where you set the blend knob. If it is off, your signal goes through all your pedals as normal meaning 100% wet.

**DosiYanarchy** · #7 06-10-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jared Lash

Yeah, Xotic doesn't do a good job of calling this out in their marketing copy.

The X-Blender's left hand stomp turns the blend on and off. If it's on you get a mixture of wet/dry depending on where you set the blend knob. If it is off, your signal goes through all your pedals as normal meaning 100% wet.

but that would mean switching m9 and x-blender at the same time, right? ie: going from an intentionally non-blended chorus to wanting a distortion with a clean blend.

TBH I dont care for the drive sounds on the M-series, they're ok for guitar but I still have fun and prefer the sound of independent stomp boxes, however there are at least 2 great models in the drive section that work great on bass IMO:
Tube Comp
Bass Octaver

moles · #8 06-10-2011, 01:25 PM

You could throw a tuner in your "dry" loop, then mute the signal when needed. This is a zero cost solution only if you have a pedal tuner, of course...

Jared Lash · #9 06-10-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DosiYanarchy

but that would mean switching m9 and x-blender at the same time, right? ie: going from an intentionally non-blended chorus to wanting a distortion with a clean blend.

PRetty much. But I can't think of any method of doing what the OP wants without clicking both the M9 and something else each time.

I suppose you could have the M9 AND and M5 in a blend loop (just for distortions) but at that point you might as well just augment the Line 6 with individual dirt pedals instead.

cultrvultr · #10 06-10-2011, 07:24 PM

Can you pan the effects on the M9? Is it possible to set the drive effects hard left and the mod effects hard right?

If so, then use 2 blend pedals. 1 blend always on to blend drive + clean bass, and 1 to blend your blended drive signal with your mod signal.

2 LS-2 pedals would be able to do this if you can pan effects in the m9.

ryansalmond · #11 06-11-2011, 02:08 AM

What I do is use a splitter and ABY pedal to run the m9 signal and a clean signal in parallel. I select whatever effects sound I want before the song starts, and can then switch from just clean to just effected or to both signals in parallel with one stomp of the ABY.

NicJimBass · #12 06-13-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DosiYanarchy

but that would mean switching m9 and x-blender at the same time, right? ie: going from an intentionally non-blended chorus to wanting a distortion with a clean blend.

i don't mind switching the M9 and the blender on, I was referring to switching settings on the LS-2 mainly, as I'd have to physically switch between A+B or a single channel, and possibly mess with the mix knobs to get something that would work. If the x-blender can switch between 100% and whatever other amount of blend I'd need, that'd work great.

Rocky55 · #13 06-13-2011, 01:54 PM

I use the X-Blender for this very purpose. The switch on the right bypasses (or activates) the loop. When bypassed, you get a dry signal going out of the X-Blender.

When the loop is engaged, you now have 2 options with the left switch... either parallel or series. If you select the series mode, the output of the blender will be the M9 (wet)sound. If you select the parallel mode, you get to blend wet/dry with the big rotary knob similary to the one on stflbn's pedal.

As an added bonus, you can also tone shape (vol/bass/treble) for effects where it is needed. It even has an 180deg phase inverter switch. Pretty cool pedal.

stflbn · #14 06-13-2011, 01:56 PM

I bought the blend pedal. No one wants me building pedals...

aledeville · #15 06-13-2011, 02:42 PM

I use it with the X&M Crossover from sfxsound. I have mine, that frequencies below 250Hz won't be affected by the M9 or the SuperSynth. All sounds get usuable this way. There aren't even phase problems with the dry/wet signal, because dry and wet don't overlap.
The upper channel can then be mixed aswell, all effects (except overdrives/distortions) in the M9 have blends.

With this you can do almost everything.

natw42 · #16 06-13-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ryansalmond

What I do is use a splitter and ABY pedal to run the m9 signal and a clean signal in parallel. I select whatever effects sound I want before the song starts, and can then switch from just clean to just effected or to both signals in parallel with one stomp of the ABY.

Hey Ryan,

Would you mind going into this further or even slapping together a rough sketch in MS Paint of this? I'm curious to see how you set this up...

If you can do it, thanks!

Nat

cheapbasslovin · #17 06-14-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by aledeville

I use it with the X&M Crossover from sfxsound. I have mine, that frequencies below 250Hz won't be affected by the M9 or the SuperSynth. All sounds get usuable this way. There aren't even phase problems with the dry/wet signal, because dry and wet don't overlap.
The upper channel can then be mixed aswell, all effects (except overdrives/distortions) in the M9 have blends.

With this you can do almost everything.

If you have don't use a lot of the octave / synth effects or have separate pedals for them, this is a very elegant solution to this problem. Look into this.

aledeville · #18 06-15-2011, 03:18 AM

The synth effects work very well. I even have the MB SuperSynth in the high channel :-)

stflbn · #19 06-15-2011, 02:18 PM

Been getting PM's about the small foot controlled blend and expression pedals.

The black Blend pedal is a T1M MBL Mini Blender from T1M EFFECTS $85

The purple Nose Expression Pedal is off of ebay.
Nose Expression Pedal | eBay

I was very happy with the build time and delivery on each.
Work great for "MY" needs. YMMV.