Anybody know of a good Volume Swell and Delay?

[jmarnett]

So I'm looking for I guess something cheaper than a Boss Slow Gear, the only one I've found is 500 bucks used, and a good delay pedal. With tons of little known effects pedal makers out there, that at times are better than the musicians friend selection. I thought I'd turn to the TB world as I have before and hope for success. Any suggestions?

[Deluge Of Sound]

You can do a search.

Off the top of my head, Behringer makes a clone of it, and I think BYOC has one too.

[bigchiefbc]

Guyatone SV-2

[cheapbasslovin]

The Line6 M9 has a Slow Volume Delay that you can dial the delay out of. Plus a whole bunch of other delays.

It doesn't have a sensitivity or trigger knob on it though. You need to do that with your bass volume.

Otherwise I'll echo Big Cheif and the BYOC.

Terms to search for are Slow Volume, Lazy Sprocket, Attack Delay.

[mynameisjack2]

The Line 6 Echo Park works, if I recall correctly.

[jmarnett]

Oh I forgot to Mention, it has to have a true bypass.

[cheapbasslovin]

Originally Posted by jmarnett

Oh I forgot to Mention, it has to have a true bypass.

Try to envision the following less D-baggy than I expect it to read.

Why is true bypass a necessity? The pedal you were originally looking at isn't true bypass. Much of the gear in your profile isn't true bypass. Is there reason you're looking exclusively TBP?

FWIW the BYOC and M9 (if all effects are bypassed) are TBP. I don't know about the Echo Park and I'm pretty sure the Guyatone is out. I think Guyatone has a new Slow Volume that is relay true bypass, but I'm not certain. If they do is isn't the SV-2, but a variation of that.

EDIT::: Mechanical True bypass, SVm5 is the model.

[Swift713]

The Pigtronix Philosopher King may be one of the better options but it's pricey. Someone needs to review it.

[CopperheadLXXIX]

Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin

Try to envision the following less D-baggy than I expect it to read.

Why is true bypass a necessity? The pedal you were originally looking at isn't true bypass. Much of the gear in your profile isn't true bypass. Is there reason you're looking exclusively TBP?

FWIW the BYOC and M9 (if all effects are bypassed) are TBP. I don't know about the Echo Park and I'm pretty sure the Guyatone is out. I think Guyatone has a new Slow Volume that is relay true bypass, but I'm not certain. If they do is isn't the SV-2, but a variation of that.

EDIT::: Mechanical True bypass, SVm5 is the model.

I have the SVm5. HUGE tracking improvement over the older SV-2.

[jmarnett]

The Foxrox Octron is a true bypass, and I believe the sansamp is as well, I run the Peavey BAC in the effects loop of the sansamp so it doesn't color my tone when I don't want it to, which is the whole reason I wanted something that was true bypass. The Guyatone SVm5 is true bypass.

I use the Sansamp as an always on pedal in my rig, so for it to be a true bypass isn't important, the Octron I do not, and the SVm5 would be the same way, which is why I need it to be a true bypass.

[cheapbasslovin]

The SansAmp isn't true bypass, but their bypass is quality. I didn't realize you had a Deluxe version hiding the Peavey's bypass, either.

Seems the options are a SVm5 or a BYOC lazy sprocket.

Forgot the VFE Bumblebee.

[bassman1185]

I would go with a volume pedal way before a Slow Gear clone. Much easier to manipulate to fit the music.

As for delays, there are tons of them out there. What features are you looking for? Tap tempo? Analog? Digital? Self-oscilation? Ability to do reverb?

[Swift713]

Actually, a volume pedal plus a slow gear clone can work pretty well. The slow gear can be set for faster swells and the volume pedal can give you some more expressive swells. I find the volume knob to be the most expressive for slower passages.

[jmarnett]

As far as a delay, I really just something to compliment either a Guyatone SVm5, or a VFE Bumblebee, from reviews and media on them it looks like those are the 2 best out there. This has been a ton of help btw.

[sillyfabe]

for me the VFE Echo Ohce does all that and more, it has an analog delay, slow gear clone and optical compressor all in one.

[fivestringgecko]

The POG2 will also do a Slow Gear sound, along with octave/organ sounds with programmable presets. Even with all the stuff it can do, I use it most for a darn convincing cello effect! That said, +1 to Bassman, I often find myself using my VP Jr. just as often for longer swells or more expressive stuff.

For a delay, the Echo Park works pretty good, but I sold mine in favor of a Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai. Blows the Echo Park out of the water, IMO. There's SO much "hidden" stuff in there... It can even do a reasonable ring mod sound.

I don't own one (played one a couple times), but I also dig the MXR Carbon Copy for it's simplicity and clean sound.

5sg.

[scotch]

I kinda like the POG 2 for auto-volume chores. I have one of the presets programmed to just do "bowed" sounds. It does a pretty great job! I can even play a drone note & it will sustain naturally as I play other "bowed" notes along with it. The POG 2 individually "slow-gears" each new note without affecting the notes you already played. Amazing!

(It does this to the original sound, btw,.. not just the synthesized octave notes. So, I'm using it as a true "Slow Gear", without any additional octave mixed in.)





...Ha! Gecko beat me to the punch whilst I was typing!

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by scotch

(It does this to the original sound, btw,.. not just the synthesized octave notes. So, I'm using it as a true "Slow Gear", without any additional octave mixed in.)

...Ha! Gecko beat me to the punch whilst I was typing!

lol

That's exactly how I use it for the Slow Gear sound too, no additional octave stuff. Some people would probably complain that the POG2 sounds a bit too digital (exactly what I said about the Micro POG, actually), but to my ears it doesn't sound as digital as the MPOG. The POG2 does enough cool stuff to outweigh any digital-ness anyway. Having stuff like a Slow Gear, octave, church organ, etc all in one pedal is pretty sweet.

5sg.

[scotch]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

lol

That's exactly how I use it for the Slow Gear sound too, no additional octave stuff. Some people would probably complain that the POG2 sounds a bit too digital (exactly what I said about the Micro POG, actually), but to my ears it doesn't sound as digital as the MPOG. The POG2 does enough cool stuff to outweigh any digital-ness anyway. Having stuff like a Slow Gear, octave, church organ, etc all in one pedal is pretty sweet.

5sg.

Totally. I don't even really use it as an "octaver" for bass. The slow-gear and organ sounds are my go-to's with it.

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by scotch

Totally. I don't even really use it as an "octaver" for bass. The slow-gear and organ sounds are my go-to's with it.

I know, right? Any actual octave sounds are why I keep my MXR Bass Octave Deluxe on my board. lol

5sg.