Anyone has a manual wah & an Autowah or Envelope Filter on their Board

**5stringwonder** · #1 03-22-2008, 11:00 AM

Have been toying with the idea of adding a manual wah to my board. Already have the 00Funk on it so I'm not sure if it'll be useful to have a manual wah.

Would a manual wah be redundant?

CicadaSilence · #2 03-22-2008, 12:03 PM

Nah, completely different applications, IME. I use my EBS Bass IQ for your standard finger funk excursions, and my Weeping Demon for long, drawn out, synth sweeps.

They can have overlapping areas of application, but I find that I use them completely differently from one another.

duba · #3 03-22-2008, 12:19 PM

I have both a manual wah (Morley PWD) and an EBS BASS IQ

Each of them is a completely different thing.

seventhson · #4 03-22-2008, 01:44 PM

The Jacques Trinity Wah has both if you want to save board space.

**5stringwonder** · #5 03-22-2008, 07:22 PM

Great! I'm looking at the Dunlop 105Q actually. Guess I need to go check one out..

Vic Winters · #6 03-22-2008, 08:49 PM

I have a 105Q and a BSW. Completely different animals.

Zappstorius · #7 03-22-2008, 10:05 PM

I've had both an envelope filter (BSW) and a manual wah (Morley DBW) and it worked. But then I added a DOD fx25 (2 knob version) and realized that there wasn't a need for the manual wah anymore. To me, they sounded too similar, pointless having both on the board, and the filter is much easier to use.

Swimming Bird · #8 03-22-2008, 11:34 PM

Depends how you use 'em. I tend to do a lot of fixed wah versus envelope filter stuff, so I like to have both (though not on at the same time). I'm actually going to switch them so they're on parallel boards which could get interesting.

Mark Olson · #9 03-22-2008, 11:46 PM

They're not redundant if you have a use for both of them. They can achieve different things. However I try to avoid buying things I don't know that I have a practical use for, however cool they may be. Leaves me more money to invest in the things I do need.

**TheMutt** · #10 03-23-2008, 02:59 AM

I've got a QTron (old silver one) and a Wilson Effects 12-Position Q Wah on my board. Obviously I use em for completely different applications. The QTron is for more driving bass lines that I throw it on for a little added flavor (not to make it funky! Funk is in the fingers!

). The wah pedal is for slower sweeping for things like solos, or to stick at a certain position and run before a fuzz or overdrive. Both are useful to me, but as always YNMV (Your Need May Vary) and YMMV.

irvinz · #11 03-23-2008, 03:02 AM

ive got a rastop filter, but im planning to switch out to a manual one. i think i would find it more useful for what i play

fuNKmaster83 · #12 03-23-2008, 03:19 AM

i got many envelop filters and auto wahs on my efx arsenal... but i only have one manual wah rocktron black cat moan...

as others say... different application... it all depends on what you need... if you don't need it it is useless to have it on the board!!!

**5stringwonder** · #13 03-23-2008, 04:23 AM

How's the Rocktron Black Cat Moan? Have you compared it to the 105Q?

It's trial and error for me actually. I'm quite keen to pick up a manual wah to see how useful it would be beside my 00Funk. Just wanted to see if others had any experience with this arrangement. Personally feel that there could be a place for both on my board.

Magical_Max · #14 03-23-2008, 05:16 AM

Used to use a Morely Wah and a Maxon AF-9 or a MXR Auto-Q. Used the wah for solos and the auto-wah/filters for riff based funk.

fuNKmaster83 · #15 03-23-2008, 06:26 AM

i had the dunlop cry baby's pedals before... the original is useless for pretty much any thing bass... the bass version is a one trick pony... the noise in the pots is the same after age and it helps to change with a sealed pot for noise free operation

the black cat has a wah and some sort of fuzz/ overdrive built into... the wah has 3 modes: 1 is cry baby, 2 original vox, 3 is bass
FUZZ has the controls for drive and some sort of mix of tone/level/gain control(you select the freq of the peak of dist or something like that)

it also has some buttons you manage how you operate the two efx together... you can select the wah and fuzz mode independent or you can set it for them to work together when wah is engaged... and lots more...

i had 5 wahs before rocktron and i don't plan on changing the black cat any time soon... its every thing i need in a manual wah

if you don't need the fuzz i suggest to try rocktron 3 star wah witch is the same a s rocktron with out the fuzz!!!

crapusername · #16 03-24-2008, 05:26 AM

i have a bottom feeder and a micro Q tron on my board along with a Weeping Demon. The demon gets used with Dist / fuzz for big swelling screamy sounds, whereas the other filters are used more for sharpening the attack of notes, and helping to add a touch of funk(!)

Chronicle · #17 03-24-2008, 08:42 AM

I love my Guyatone BR-2.

http://media.putfile.com/BR-2-1

JKT · #18 03-24-2008, 09:18 AM

I use a DOD FX 25. A very funky sounding filter IMO. I seems to respond very well to subtle changes in playing style. A bit too sensitive to input gain at times but I've gotten used to it.

DOD is out of business, but these pedals are fairly common in the used market.

I have other envelope effects in my multi-effects unit but non as musical as the DOD. I also use this pedal to produce percussive roto-tom type effects. It is a fun pedal.

JKT