anyone tried a tri pie AND a tall font russian fuzz out??

[Flymo Wang]

hi all,

very specific question! i have a W&C Tri Pie 70' fuzz, which is great but not quite the fuzz i'm after. i think i'm leaning towards getting a TFR just wondered if anyone who has tried both can chip in regarding the amount of fuzz on tap on both?

i never turn the fuzz knob beyond 9 o'clock on the tri pie, and my favourite sounds are with it practically at zero (great crunchy tone) - is the TFR a lower gain fuzz, i.e will there be more usable lower fuzz tones than i can squeeeze out of it compared to the tri pie?

many thanks!
gaz

[Flymo Wang]

or do i just need a beefy distortion pedal

[Flymo Wang]

nobody??

[rratajski]

I think Laurent just put up a post about it

Originally Posted by Laurent

I would like to hear more about what people think of the Wren and Cuff Box of War.

Meanwhile I have been A/B ing the four following fuzz:
- Stomp Under Foot Civil War
- Fuzzrocious Grey Stache
- Wren and Cuff Tri Pie
- Wren and Cuff Tall Font Russion

I have only doing the test with a SS amp, hopefully I'll get to put these pedals in front of a tube amp to see how they behave.

So far here is what I've observed:
All pedals are of excellent quality and the differences are in distortion pretty subtle. The differences in tone are more dramatic.
The Fuzzrocious has the most mids (regarless of the mid boost position) and a beautiful kind of brassy distortion when pushed high.
The Stomp Under Foot is a gain monster and it has the most articulation. It's the most pretty of the bunch when played in the highs. It's a tad more aggressive than the other pedals.
The Tall Font Russian has the least gain, the least articulation and it's the darkest but for stoner type tones it really kills.
The Tri Pie sits pretty close to the Fuzzrocious and Stomp Under Foot tone wise. It's a pretty pedal that will make you lost track of your test, it's so pretty.

Originally Posted by Laurent

I redid this test this time with a tube head and a single 15" cab and that combination magnified the differences between these pedals.

The most bass friendly is the Tall Font Russian. This pedal has a scary amount of bass. It's the most woolly and organic of the four. It also has the least gain and it's capable of beautiful distortion.

At the opposit end of the spectrum is the Fuzzrocious which is kind of a mids monster. In order to get in the same tone territory than the Tall Font, I had to cut the mids all the way down and bring the bass all the way up. Meanwhile the Tall Font was sitting right at 12 o'clock. To cut in a busy mix this pedal is probably your best bet. It's capable of a fair amount of highs too. The three way switch gives more tone options too.

The best overall performance is won by the Stomp Under Foot Civil War. This pedal and Stomp Under Foot in general gets very little exposure on Bass Talk, yet Matt is an incredible pedal builder. He is a fuzz specialist but he sold me a Bass Overdrive (pedal number one) which is terrific. In fact it's one of the best overdrive I own. Anyways the Civil War is a gain monster, at 9 o'clock it yields as much power as other pedals set at noon and the Tall Font set at 3 o'clock. It's also capable of a great amount of bass; it does not quite match the Tall Font Russian but close. Tone and gain consideration appart, the pedal sound like the Wren and Cuff Tri Pie with more articulation. This pedal is the best overall performer of this group if you are only going to own one pedal.

The Tri Pie yields some gorgeous tones but compared with the other pedal it kind of hits the middle of the pack. It has less mids than the Fuzzrocious, less bass than the Tall Font or the Civil War and less gain than the Civil War. That being said it has more gain than the Tall Font.

Again, I can't stress enough that these four pedals are of a great quality and that the difference in tones are significant when you focus on them but subtle once burried in a mix with drum and guitars.

[Flymo Wang]

doh - missed that, cheers ears!

[Laurent]

The tall font is darker (more bass - a lot more bass!) than the Tri Pie and has less gain as well.
It should do what you're looking for.

If I have a minute over the week-end, I'll run a test between the two pedals with your specific question in mind.

[Laurent]

So I tried the Tri Pie and Tall Font Russian on minimum to 9 o'clock and the difference is primarily a difference of tone more than distortion. The Tall Font is the darkest and shows the most wool character, the Tri Pie is in the middle and the Fuzzrocious Grey Stache is the brightest.

I no longer have an EH Bass MUff on hand but I remember it as quite mild on its lowest setting. This pedal also has a blend which would allow to make things more subtle.

Due to this fonction and afforadbility I would recommend this pedal to you with what you have in mind. In a side by side shoot out, the Trie Pie won but not by very much. For bass fuzz value it's the Champion.

[pob]

Mmmmm Tri Pie isjust the mmm

[pob]

Mmmmm Tri Pie is just the mmm

I love fuzz but there comes a point where it's done.

nom nom nom

[PawleeP]

What is diiference between tall font russian and a pickle pie b. .. guess there are two different degrees of fuzz? for bass that w c makes?

[Frenchy-Lefty]

Originally Posted by Flymo Wang

or do i just need a beefy distortion pedal

I think you do

[Frenchy-Lefty]

How about a W&C Mercy Phuk?

[Matt Dean]

I think the Tri Pie is fuzzier than the TFR. I used to own a Tri Pie, but switched to TFR for a little rawer tone... to me it's more of a distortion than a fuzz.

[PawleeP]

So I rekon that the pickle pie b is more of a fuzz than the tall font?