auto-wah for "No Quarter" sound

quadrogong · #1 04-13-2011, 11:56 AM

I do this thing with a crybaby, I step up and down really rapidly on it, while playing chords and stuff, it kinda emulates the Zep's,"No Quarter" leslie/wurlitzer sound..

Is there an auto wah,or very intense Rotary or similar effect
that will go,"wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah" continuously. when I sustain a note?

it has to be set fairly quickly,too..
thnx.

Electricblue · #2 04-13-2011, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadrogong

I do this thing with a crybaby, I step up and down really rapidly on it, while playing chords and stuff, it kinda emulates the Zep's,"No Quarter" leslie/wurlitzer sound..

Is there an auto wah,or very intense leslie thingy or similar effect
that will go,"wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah" continuously?
it has to be set really quickly,too..
thnx!

Vibrato/Rotary pedal.

quadrogong · #3 04-13-2011, 12:20 PM

it's a little stronger than just a leslie, more intense, like a repeating wah, if I set the tone control really warm, it sounds dead-on like that Wurlitzer..up to now it's worked fine with the pedal, but it takes alot of energy and I just wondered how it would sound if it was automated instead of foot controlled.

fokof · #4 04-13-2011, 12:27 PM

+1 for vibrato.

Off topic:
Funny you mention that song , I'm working on it this week.
I made an interesting patch on the VB99 for that particular song. I do the kbd part with the top three strings and the Moog part with the lower two.
I use both Leslie/vibrato/ gtr amp to recreate the kbd part.

jetofuj · #5 04-13-2011, 12:46 PM

I've heard that it was recorded with Mutron Bi-Phase, who knows?

quadrogong · #6 04-13-2011, 12:48 PM

could be, interesting fact,if so.
i was considering this crazy phaser
http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/?p...equencycentral
it looks too wild to resist..

bigchiefbc · #7 04-13-2011, 01:04 PM

The EHX Wiggler has a Wurlitzer mode. I had a Wiggler for a short while, but was more interested in the Leslie and univibe-esque modes at the time. So I couldn't tell you how close it was.

PostBop · #8 04-14-2011, 09:56 PM

I managed to achieve that sound for the most part with an EHX The Worm. It has a few settings including auto-wah and tremolo. They are the cheapest thing you can get for that sound without sounding like garbage thru bass, bout $100. I recommend it.

Deluge Of Sound · #9 04-14-2011, 10:13 PM

Just an idea--would one of those Crybaby-bodied Phase 90's do the trick?
YouTube - Mxr Variphase (phase 90), from mxr custom shop

rekesbass · #10 04-15-2011, 07:47 AM

The only modulation pedal I own is a E-H small stone(phase) and it does a pretty good simulation of that sound. I would think the MXR would do a similar thing.

skulletwhip · #11 04-15-2011, 01:09 PM

Maybe a Rotovibe?

quadrogong · #12 04-15-2011, 08:22 PM

Thanx, not really a phaser I'm after. It's something more intense, more of a dark, rapidly repeating wah filter.

Let's say I hit a single, sustained note..
I don't want it to go,"Wow" or " meow" like an envelope filter,
I'm looking for more like,
"wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow-wow"
A wah that repeats. In a small pedal.

It's kind of a weird technique, I wiggle the crybaby pedal really quickly,
almost shaking it, I call it my"nervous foot" technique..
But I keep the pedal towards the
back, darker frequencies only..
It kind of warbles.
If u do it quickly enough and set your EQ right.. It's mesmerizing,

I've done this for years with the pedal, it expends a lot if energy and it's hard to keep up for very long..
I hate bringing a wah to a bass gig, I'd like to try and recreate it in a small pedal, but the nuances of a crybaby may be hard to recreate,
I think there's a certain feel, or human quality I get with the foot that may be tough to recreate w an auto wah.
I'm looking for something w a lot of adjustable parameters,
My engineer suggested the snow white auto wah, I think Rudy's has one, I'll try it.

putsia · #13 04-16-2011, 12:42 AM

Have you thought about the EHX worm? Its modulated wah mode could be exactly what you're looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBaHlyw2Ys

phatbass · #14 04-16-2011, 01:17 AM

YouTube - MXR M188 Bass Auto Q Demo Video

Sounds to me like this may be what you want.

Like too many of these vids, you have to wait through about 1 minute of sales BS before you get to the interesting part...

rr5025 · #15 04-16-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by phatbass

YouTube - MXR M188 Bass Auto Q Demo Video

Sounds to me like this may be what you want.

Like too many of these vids, you have to wait through about 1 minute of sales BS before you get to the interesting part...

Everytime I see that guy I just wanna take a pair of scissors and cut that beard off haha.

genericusername · #16 04-16-2011, 11:09 AM

I use my boss AW-3. It has a setting where it will just keep going "wah-wah-wah" forever, and you can set the tempo and some other stuff I don't completely understand. I don't use it (the setting) much though, and when I do attempt to play No Quarter I just use the regular wah setting.

quadrogong · #17 04-16-2011, 10:20 PM

Now we're talkin,
Thanx, TB..

Meddle · #18 04-17-2011, 06:53 AM

I think JPJ used a Maestro Phaser with a Fender Rhodes, not a wurlitzer or a leslie. I always think wurlitzers are more barky whereas Rhodes have a more xylophone like sound.

WhiteNinja · #19 04-17-2011, 09:24 AM

This should help greatly I think:

YouTube - Electro-Harmonix Effectology, Vol.10 Electric Piano Effect (Led Zeppelin-No Quarter)

quadrogong · #20 04-17-2011, 01:15 PM

Very close, thnx
Lots of stuff they want u to buy to create it
But yes, this is very close to the crybaby thing I do, the attack sounds very round and Rhodes-y like that, too.
Reverb and delay polish it up but aren't essential,
Essentially,it's a lightning quick,
bass-to-treble filter,that repeats