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04-27-2008, 02:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, California, USA | | | A/B REVIEW: Digitech Whammy IV versus Boss PS-3
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As promised, here’s my comparison review. In this review, I’m only looking at the features of the Boss PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay that are shared with the Digitech Whammy IV: pitch-shifting, harmony, and chorus capabilities. POWER: The Whammy IV runs on a 9VAC adapter, rated for 1300mA. Meanwhile, the Boss PS-3 is far less demanding and uses a typical 9VDC supply. Until the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power Versa comes out, the Whammy will be a hassle to power. SIZE: The Whammy IV is approximately 8” x 6.3”, while the PS-3 is the same as any other Boss compact pedal. Of course, once you add an expression pedal, the combo will take up just as much space as the Whammy does. HANDLING: The treadle of the Whammy IV is smooth and easy to manage, IMO. I seem to have a harder time with precision-controlling the sweeps with the Roland EV-5 that’s being used with my PS-3. This is an issue of personal preference, since I know some people hate the way the Whammy handles. TRACKING: The Whammy IV is like its predecessors – it’s a digital monophonic pedal. It will break up and struggle to track if you’re playing chords or letting notes ring out over each other. The PS-3 shows virtually no struggle at all, although it might waver a bit on fancy low note chordwork. I think the PS-3 may be officially a polyphonic pedal, because it tracks pretty much everything. MODE SWITCHING: The Whammy is extremely user-friendly, and even offers the ability to use a MIDI controller to switch between presets or dial in specific settings. On the PS-3, you have to dial in pitches manually and adjust the Balance knob for whammy or harmony use. Fortunately, this allows the PS-3 a greater degree of freedom in what you can set it to do, but the Whammy wins for sheer convenience and a nice selection of useful presets. If only it had the 5th up / 1 octave up harmony mode like on the Bass Whammy… WHAMMY MODES: First, I’ll address the upper octaves. The sweeps of the Whammy are thick, full of midrange, and growly. There is a slight boost in volume, which is a nice perk considering that going up an octave will take some of your low end. The sound packs a punch, and can distort a bit depending on your playing style. It sounds awesome running before distortion; it becomes very “organic”, and the effect will cut through even heavy fuzz tones.
The PS-3 is very different. The sweeps seem thinner in comparison, but are clean, have a brighter top end, and carry a slight ambience to them. They also have a characteristic unnatural tone and a slight “tremolo-like” sound to them – it’s extremely mild but ever-present in the sustain. The drawback of the PS-3’s effect is that it is more likely to be buried if run before a distortion pedal. Generally, the PS-3’s sound is cleaner and 100% stable, but the Whammy cuts through much better – especially through distortion.
On the lower octaves, the Whammy adopts characteristics more akin to an analog sub-octave pedal (including the mild tracking glitches), which I find to be pretty cool. Meanwhile, the PS-3’s lower octaves sound distinctively unnatural and somewhat metallic. It’s far from an old-school sound. HARMONY MODES: The main difference here goes back to the “organ” reference. Both have smooth sweeps, but the Whammy sounds like a slightly overdriven organ, and it seems more precise in the pitch it shifts to. On the same settings, the PS-3 sounds more like a clean organ, and seems more dissonant on the end note if the end note is below the dry signal note. They don’t seem to be “tuned” quite the same. The Whammy sounds slightly more accurate to my ears on the bottom end of things. DETUNE MODES: Each pedal has detune modes for chorus sounds. Surprisingly, these two pedals have a lot of common tonal ground: deep, natural, and not tone-altering. The PS-3 can achieve thicker, more extreme chorus sounds; when cranked, it can reach the domain of delay modulation (minus the delay) or dramatic ambient detuning. With the Whammy, however, you can alter the depth on the fly with the treadle, going from a clean sound to a full chorus tone. If you need a nice, thick chorus that you can gradually fade in with your foot, the Whammy is the ticket. For more extreme chorus sounds, the PS-3 is the way to go. OVERALL: This really narrows down to personal preference, since they sound and behave so differently. The Whammy IV seems to be my style when it comes to pitch shifting, but the detune chorus sounds are amazing with the PS-3. I think I'm going to keep the Whammy IV for band use, as it has already been band tested and approved, and works better for what I'm doing. I just need to decide what to do with my PS-3 – after all, it has 8 other cool modes I didn’t address in this review (see my full PS-3 solo review for more information on those).
If I get an opportunity, I'll try to record some soundclips.
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04-27-2008, 03:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia | | | very useful comparison review boo. thanks for doing this.
now, if only I can get my hands on a PS-3 (my cousin beat me to the only NOS PS-3 that I know in town)
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04-27-2008, 06:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, UK | | Oh great... Now I want a whammy... 
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04-27-2008, 06:25 AM
| | Registered User Lead Designer, Zeibek Boutique Pedals | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hüstın, TX | | | nice work.. have been wondering that for a while. | 
04-27-2008, 08:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, TX | | | Very informative. I have found very quickly that I really like the detune modes on the PS-3. I found on mine that with my 4 string, I really like the double detune chorus effect (which sounds very natural to me, not like a chorus effect. Much more like two basses playing the same thing), and I like the detune+5th up effect, especially with fuzz. But, then again, I seem to have been using my PS-3 to generate more rounded and huge bass tone, rather than dramatic effects.
If only you could use a non-latching footswitch to scroll between modes on the PS-3, sort of how you can scroll through loops on the RC-20XL. I definitely think that the PS-3 would have greatly benefitted from some sort of preset capability. This is the biggest drawback I have found with mine.
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04-27-2008, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Happynoj Oh great... Now I want a whammy...  | hmmm... You just gave me an idea.
UK is 240volt... Maybe I could power my whammy with a UK adaptor with a travel adaptor for Aus on it!!
Im having all kinds of drama trying to get a 240v 9vac 1300ma adaptor here in Australia. US ones are only 110v.
Nice A/B Boo. I want a PS-3 !
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04-27-2008, 08:48 AM
|  | TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002 Endorsing Artist: Lyt Pedalboards Beta tester: Source Audio Moderator | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: Connecticut | | | Great review, Boo. I had a Bass Whammy and thought it was great, but the monophonic issue led me to selling it. The PS-3 doesn't sound like it's quite good replacement if you've enjoyed the ease of use and sound of the Whammy. | 
04-27-2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler Great review, Boo. I had a Bass Whammy and thought it was great, but the monophonic issue led me to selling it. The PS-3 doesn't sound like it's quite good replacement if you've enjoyed the ease of use and sound of the Whammy. | Well, I think after playing with the PS-3, that they are really two different animals. Pitch shifting is what they have in common, but the PS-3 can do much more than that. Think of it less as a pitch shifter, and more as a Chorus/Delay/Pitch Shifter all rolled up together. The PS-3 is just much more tweakable.
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04-27-2008, 11:26 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: State college, PA | | | Question: does the ps-3 send the exact same signal to both outputs?
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04-27-2008, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hookus Well, I think after playing with the PS-3, that they are really two different animals. Pitch shifting is what they have in common, but the PS-3 can do much more than that. Think of it less as a pitch shifter, and more as a Chorus/Delay/Pitch Shifter all rolled up together. The PS-3 is just much more tweakable. | I was looking at it just for its pitch shifting abilities. The extras are nice, but they're not what I'd get the pedal for. | 
04-27-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Oreomeister365 Question: does the ps-3 send the exact same signal to both outputs? | That depends on the mode. In most modes... yes, the outputs are identical (no true stereo here). But in modes 8, 9, and 10 (the Dual Pitch Shift modes), Output A gets a mix of the dry signal and Pitch A, while output B gets a mix of the dry signal and Pitch B.
Using just Output A will get you a mix of all three (dry, Pitch A, Pitch B).
So... if you wanted to do the wet/dry output thing, adjust Pitch A to be the dry pitch (12:00), and adjust Pitch B as desired. Mess with the Balance knob if you want to remove the "doubling" effect. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler Great review, Boo. I had a Bass Whammy and thought it was great, but the monophonic issue led me to selling it. The PS-3 doesn't sound like it's quite good replacement if you've enjoyed the ease of use and sound of the Whammy. | +1. They're more different than I expected them to be. But for those looking for a pitch shifter that's nothing like the Whammy in sound, and is polyphonic... this is the answer. 
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04-27-2008, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KarateKid25 hmmm... You just gave me an idea.
UK is 240volt... Maybe I could power my whammy with a UK adaptor with a travel adaptor for Aus on it!!
Im having all kinds of drama trying to get a 240v 9vac 1300ma adaptor here in Australia. US ones are only 110v.
Nice A/B Boo. I want a PS-3 ! | Really? You got all of that from my post? AMAZING!!! Maybe I could make a living writing the inspirational quotes from the inside of fortune cookies!!! 
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04-27-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Happynoj Really? You got all of that from my post? AMAZING!!! Maybe I could make a living writing the inspirational quotes from the inside of fortune cookies!!!  | Don't. Not even for a summer job. It made me never want to eat fortune cookies again.
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04-28-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KarateKid25 hmmm... You just gave me an idea.
UK is 240volt... Maybe I could power my whammy with a UK adaptor with a travel adaptor for Aus on it!!
Im having all kinds of drama trying to get a 240v 9vac 1300ma adaptor here in Australia. US ones are only 110v.
Nice A/B Boo. I want a PS-3 ! | This is what i did with the english muffin - rather than needing a step down tranformer, the simple adapter suffices.
I also bought a whammy IV from America, but was lucky enough to snag a power supply off ebay that was originally for Digitech's large GNX multi-effect series. Its a custom built one though, and it has an annoying design flaw that lead me to re-solder it on one occasion.
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04-28-2008, 12:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lismore, NSW, Australia | | oops... Thread hi-jack... Sorry Boo!
Thanks for the info though guys!! Any more ideas, please put them in my 'Whammy 4 power problems' thread. Cheers
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04-28-2008, 12:29 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College Station, Texas | | So Boo, when are you giving me your PS-3?  | 
04-28-2008, 09:59 AM
|  | Registered User Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | will read this later. | 
04-28-2008, 10:17 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annapolis, MD | | | I reckon I need another PS-3. Too much fun to only have 1.
I still cant get mine to track as well as I'd like. But i've come to accept the weirdness for what it is and just go with it. I turned the EFX level knob down a little bit so the reverse delayed octave-up isnt as prominent, more like spaced out background noise. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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