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03-23-2008, 09:13 AM
|  | Lookout! Here comes the Fuzz! Moderator | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia, MO | | | Barge Concept VB-Jr
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03-23-2008, 09:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My Old Kentucky Home.... | | | Damn. And just when I swore I wouldn't buy anything else this week.....
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Originally Posted by vene-nemesis  Music has been with the human race like forever! cant you understand that some of us cant just say no to the cheese burger? | Loving my P basses, MarkBass heads and Schroeder cabs. Life is good....
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03-23-2008, 09:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: self banned from talkbass.... | | 
I really didn't need to see this 
The way things are looking I'm either going to have to get one of those or get a bigger board, my pedaltrain pro is about maxed out. |
03-23-2008, 09:58 AM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | The size clinches it. I'm getting one for sure. I've been wanting a second blend loop anyway and was just about to pull the trigger on one of the Radial models (to go with my Xotic), but it looks like Barge has one-upped them finally. |
03-23-2008, 10:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Bay & Toronto, Ontario | | My VB-jr showed up last week. Man, I really regret not getting those switches (didn't really know about them at the time). There's a definite "warble" when I pair it up with my big muff and it's especially obvious when soloed - it's no so bad in the mix.
-Eric
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03-23-2008, 10:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My Old Kentucky Home.... | | Quote:
Originally Posted by grygrx Fully loaded version with expression and phase inversion switch. Jus thought I would share: | I take it that the expression out and phase inversion switch are options you add after purchase? I just checked out the website and eBay store and can't find the exact item.
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Originally Posted by vene-nemesis Music has been with the human race like forever! cant you understand that some of us cant just say no to the cheese burger? | Loving my P basses, MarkBass heads and Schroeder cabs. Life is good....
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03-23-2008, 11:03 AM
|  | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | Email Barge directly and they'll build them into one for you.
They do a lot of custom work. I've been trading emails with Geoff about doing a custom VFB-2 with two different blend switches and their vari-Z circuit. They're very open to doing mods.
Oh and here's their actual website. |
03-23-2008, 11:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My Old Kentucky Home.... | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO Email Barge directly and they'll build them into one for you.
They do a lot of custom work. I've been trading emails with Geoff about doing a custom VFB-2 with two different blend switches and their vari-Z circuit. They're very open to doing mods.
Oh and here's their actual website. | Thanks, I'll drop them an email. I've been to the website before, that's where I found the link to the eBay items. Thanks again!
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10-09-2009, 11:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF (North) Bay Area | | grygrx, what does phase inversion do for you on the VB-Jr?
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10-09-2009, 12:14 PM
| | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Dean grygrx, what does phase inversion do for you on the VB-Jr?
Thanks | It inverts the phase. 
Simply put whenever you are combining two signals (like in a blend pedal) there is the chance that the signals will be out of phase which causes some frequency cancellation. The switch will mitigate/alleviate that problem. |
10-09-2009, 12:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vista, CA | | The beauty of the two amp setup is that I have no GAS for one of these.  |
10-09-2009, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF (North) Bay Area | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared Lash It inverts the phase.
Simply put whenever you are combining two signals (like in a blend pedal) there is the chance that the signals will be out of phase which causes some frequency cancellation. The switch will mitigate/alleviate that problem. | (With apologies for being dense)... why would I want to invert the phase. I ask because I'm about to pull the trigger on the VB-Jr and would add phase inversion, if I knew why I would want to do that. |
10-09-2009, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vista, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Dean (With apologies for being dense)... why would I want to invert the phase. I ask because I'm about to pull the trigger on the VB-Jr and would add phase inversion, if I knew why I would want to do that. | Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfe...propagation%29
Constructive and destructive interference. You don't want destructive interference with your effects. |
10-09-2009, 12:48 PM
| | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Dean (With apologies for being dense)... why would I want to invert the phase. I ask because I'm about to pull the trigger on the VB-Jr and would add phase inversion, if I knew why I would want to do that. | Certain pedals will create the need. You'll know when the wet signal from the pedal and the clean from the VB-jr are out of phase. The frequency cancellation is very obvious from the sound and the fact that the volume is much louder (assuming the pedal is a unity) at either extreme of the blend (100% wet or 100% dry) then it is with a 50/50 blend.
Personally, I've only had this happen once (and with a pedal that wasn't mine - an old wah pedal) and at the time I was using the Xotic Xblender that has an phase inversion switch and it fixed it right away.
Personally I don't think you need to bother with it, but it wouldn't hurt to have it if it's a cheap option. |
10-09-2009, 01:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF (North) Bay Area | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared Lash Personally I don't think you need to bother with it, but it wouldn't hurt to have it if it's a cheap option. | Thanks guys... now I understand. I think it's probably an option worth having in my back pocket considering the low added cost. |
10-09-2009, 01:20 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Coast of Canada | | Nice I really only got rid of mine since I got the TLSF and I quasi-bi-amp anyways. The 4 channel mixer allows me to boost the levels of the 2 channels if need be, without needing another pedal or 2. Even if I used it to mix 50/50 like I do right now, I'd still need a boost after the barge since both signals would get cut by 50% because of the way the blend pot works ( AFAIK/IME).
Still a cool pedal, but I would have to take up more space to have used it to my liking
Why 2 switches tho? Is one to turn the EXP on/off? |
10-09-2009, 02:27 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, California | | | looks very cool! |
10-09-2009, 05:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England | | | Some filters invert the phase, I know the 442 does at least. It's worth getting just in case! |
10-10-2009, 12:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Raumati South, New Zealand | | | I've been thinking about getting one of these but I really like the idea of having the feedback section of the VFB-X.
Has anyone on here found the feedback circuit useful? If not, I might just spring for one of these.
How much are the mods?
What are the wait times like for Barge these days?
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10-10-2009, 05:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Luxembourg, Europe | | great pedal! I have 2 of these 
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