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05-18-2009, 12:48 PM
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I did do a search but couldn't find anything specifically about low end loss.
I'm after a mid priced trem and I was reading up on the keeley modded TR-2 and it said that they improved the bass response from the stock model, so is low end loss/response to bass freqs common among tremolos?
I'm looking at the T-Rex Tremster or the Seymour Duncan Shape Shifter, or anything else around that price range | 
05-18-2009, 12:53 PM
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05-18-2009, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bongomania This is the first time I've heard of any tremolo losing any low end. The vast majority of them are perfectly bass friendly. | Fair enough, I was just going on the description of the keeley modded tr-2, so maybe he just added more bass.
Any reccomendations for a trem around my price range then? Looking to spend ideally £100-£125 (aboot $150-$175 now, damned recession) | 
05-18-2009, 01:02 PM
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05-18-2009, 01:09 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Michigan | | | I use a Voodoo Lab Tremolo on bass, and I really like it, great for a range of classic tremolo tones, from sine wave to helicopter chops, I highly recommend it.
Some tremolo pedals don't have a volume control, and since they modulate amplitude, it's possible that the average loudness of your signal can go down when you kick on a trem, causing a perceived loss of volume, but the Voodoo Lab Tremolo has a volume control that is capable of boost, so that's never a problem. | 
05-18-2009, 01:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | You should be able to use any trem you want. There are subtle tonal differences, but most are fairly straight up. No worries on low end loss with any, as far as I know.
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05-18-2009, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkinthetrunk Never noticed any low end loss with my Kahler. | Good one.
The EHX Pulsar is ace. no loss of low end and a tonne of different tones available.
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05-18-2009, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bongomania This is the first time I've heard of any tremolo losing any low end. The vast majority of them are perfectly bass friendly. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RickenBoogie You should be able to use any trem you want. There are subtle tonal differences, but most are fairly straight up. No worries on low end loss with any, as far as I know. | +1. A tremolo is simply a volume effect so there shouldn't be any low end loss. The only difficulty I've experienced with a trem and bass is if you hit it with a hot signal and it produces some artifacts. Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkinthetrunk Never noticed any low end loss with my Kahler. | Even the great ones make mistakes. Vibrato arm Leo, Vibrato. | 
05-18-2009, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbob Jones Good one.
The EHX Pulsar is ace. no loss of low end and a tonne of different tones available. | I didn't like the Pulsar. Sold it after a month of two. I then got a Catalinbread Semaphore and I fell in love with tremolo again  | 
05-18-2009, 07:04 PM
| | | | I tried the Pulsar and loved the tone but the volume drop when engaged was kind of disappointing. I also tried the Voodoo Labs and felt that it would be a good choice as it has a volume control.
I have the new MXR analog trem on my little guitar board and its really warm and sweet sounding but also has no volume control so the drop in volume when engaged is audible.
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05-18-2009, 07:04 PM
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05-18-2009, 07:05 PM
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05-18-2009, 07:07 PM
|  | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | I've never tried the T-Rex, but if your budget is $200 or less then you have quite a few options. Having only heard it on guitar, I like the Shape Shifter. Very versatile and tap tempo which is a great feature. My only concern is not having a volume knob. Don't know if it has an internal trimmer or not, but I always set my tremolo slightly above unity so it would be a deal breaker for me if it didn't. Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Olson I use a Voodoo Lab Tremolo on bass, and I really like it, great for a range of classic tremolo tones, from sine wave to helicopter chops, I highly recommend it.
Some tremolo pedals don't have a volume control, and since they modulate amplitude, it's possible that the average loudness of your signal can go down when you kick on a trem, causing a perceived loss of volume, but the Voodoo Lab Tremolo has a volume control that is capable of boost, so that's never a problem. | Great points from Mark. And the Voodoo Lab is probably my favorite sub $150 trem. Not as feature packed as others but a great sound. Quote:
Originally Posted by Intolerantbass | Great trem. The Semaphore is definitely worth considering in this price range too. | 
05-18-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigO I've never tried the T-Rex, but if your budget is $200 or less then you have quite a few options. Having only heard it on guitar, I like the Shape Shifter. Very versatile and tap tempo which is a great feature. My only concern is not having a volume knob. Don't know if it has an internal trimmer or not, but I always set my tremolo slightly above unity so it would be a deal breaker for me if it didn't.
Great points from Mark. And the Voodoo Lab is probably my favorite sub $150 trem. Not as feature packed as others but a great sound.
Great trem. The Semaphore is definitely worth considering in this price range too. |
I'm hoping this thread can convince that I don't need the Empress and that I would be happy with the T-Rex, Semaphore or Voodoo Lab trems. Of those, I've only played the T-Rex and I thought it sounded great. Simple controls and easy to dial in. But usually like effects that can get a little more crazy than the Tremster.
Has anyone run the Semaphore on 12V? If so, does it improve the headroom more for bass? It would be easy for me to run it on 12V with my PP+. I'd rather not hog two slots for 18V. | 
05-18-2009, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbob Jones Good one.
The EHX Pulsar is ace. no loss of low end and a tonne of different tones available. | 
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05-18-2009, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed I'm hoping this thread can convince that I don't need the Empress and that I would be happy with the T-Rex, Semaphore or Voodoo Lab trems. Of those, I've only played the T-Rex and I thought it sounded great. Simple controls and easy to dial in. But usually like effects that can get a little more crazy than the Tremster.
Has anyone run the Semaphore on 12V? If so, does it improve the headroom more for bass? It would be easy for me to run it on 12V with my PP+. I'd rather not hog two slots for 18V. | It does indeed improve with 12V. I would say 12v would keep it in the realm of liking the sound for me  | 
05-18-2009, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chronicle It does indeed improve with 12V. I would say 12v would keep it in the realm of liking the sound for me  | Well that one is back on my list. I want/need a tremolo but I'm having a hell of time trying to figure out which one I want to buy first. | 
05-19-2009, 10:22 PM
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