Bass Reverb: What's the point? - Page 4

2milehighspike · #61 02-13-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IPYF

Look man. I'm not interested in bringing people down. I didn't start this thread to cause a ruckus. I requested you to not be snide and to contribute something. But instead you've come back at me again suggesting that I'm perpetrating some underhanded attempt to stifle the creative element of anyone who wants to use this effect. Don't try and twist my words. You'll find that it won't be particularly rewarding.

I'll reiterate what I said in post number one. I don't like what I hear in that video, most especially towards the end. I want to know why people might want such an effect on bass. I want to know why Ashdown might have chosen to invest in it. Many people have so far indicated what I already know: that a little bit of reverb can be helpful in certain circumstances, especially in a fretless environment. Additionally certain posters have come out and presented really cool applications of reverb effects (ie. that Isis stuff which I especially liked) the like of which I haven't heard previous to this; therefore advancing the thread and the conversation.

You're most welcome to come the libertarian with me (ie. each to their own) and call me out as some form of closet troll, and others are welcome to agree with you, but I'd vastly prefer it if you actually had something further to add to the discussion. If you consider the content to be asinine you are most welcome not to respond.

Don't feed the troll, sorry bro you are busted!

chuck norriss · #62 02-13-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IPYF

Ok so Ashdown have a new line of pedals. Here's one of them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLa0YHjw4GU

So here's my question to you cats out there in bass land.

Who the hell uses reverb on a bass?? Does anyone have any examples of reverb being used in a live environment to great effect? What genre would benefit from this being employed even slightly?

I really just need someone to prove to me that this kind of thing actually needs to exist.

I do. it's very pretty. not applicable all the time but it's nice for subtle effect or all out sigur ros-like sustain. I prefer ehx holy grail or alesis products.

IPYF · #63 02-13-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AmpedSilence

Russian Circles comes to mind (in my limited knowledge of ambient-type music).

Brian Cook's usage of reverb is haunting... in a good way

Russian Circles is amazing. Thanks for posting this.

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Don't feed the troll, sorry bro you are busted!

I'm not trolling. If you think I'm merely trying to get a raise out of people who use reverb, I must be doing an awful job because plenty of people seem perfectly content to discuss this concept.

It started out with myself posting something I didn't like. In 4 pages I've been shown plenty of stuff that I really do. If you consider this to be a waste of time, as I said previously, you're most welcome to butt out.

enjoi1018 · #64 02-13-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by coyote1

In fairness,that's not bass playing; it is solo playing on a full range instrument. It is more chapman stick than anything else. And those players use lots of effects, with reverb being common in order to help fill out the space.

Awesome playing by baudin, of course.

Well said. I refer to an instrument that can register that low (with bass strings) as an "extended range bass."

I mean, it's not a guitar, so it's a..... bass...?

dullsilver_mike · #65 02-13-2013, 08:42 PM

I use reverb with a slow gear clone and distortion pedal to get some fun synth string sounds. It's not something you use often, but it's nice on some slow songs.

Roscoe East · #66 02-13-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IPYF

Who the hell uses reverb on a bass??

I have.

skulletwhip · #67 02-13-2013, 09:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmSp...e_gdata_player

Jean Baudin · #68 02-13-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by coyote1

In fairness,that's not bass playing; it is solo playing on a full range instrument. It is more chapman stick than anything else. And those players use lots of effects, with reverb being common in order to help fill out the space.

Awesome playing by baudin, of course.

In all fairness, please don't lump me with the chapman stick guys... I've never even played one! I play a bass, tuned in fourths, with a few lower and higher strings.

BassKitty101 · #69 02-13-2013, 09:45 PM

If it had no use as a an effect on bass then why would it be used or why would these units even have a market?

And also, I understand you were trying to merely ask a question but you probably could have worded it less like an ass. IMO of course

mistermark311 · #70 02-13-2013, 10:35 PM

In the studio, reverb on bass can be really usable and effective if done properly. I've gotten the best results from plugins as I find most pedals don't allow for super fine adjustments or have the various adjustable parameters.

I like it best when its used in moderation and made to simulate a very, very small room with just a touch of pre delay in a sparse mix. This gives the bass a very pleasant resonate and full sound that really makes a difference.

-Mark

enjoi1018 · #71 02-14-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean Baudin

I play a bass, tuned in fourths, with a few lower and higher strings.

This is like when Brady's contract is over but he announces he'll still be with the Pats. We still got him!!

zon6c-f · #72 02-14-2013, 08:25 AM

I P Y F

When I began playing electric bass in 1968-69,as a purist, I would have balked at reverb; NEVER featured on a typical bass amp even then. Only effect I would have chosen was a pick.

Later, as I listened more broadly, I began to hear reverb on bass recordings. I didn't understand it's application for bass then, but it has always been around on major pop recordings.

With advent of multi-effects units, choices of reverb[s] is always an available choice; some manufactured sounds on effects boxes are washed with reverb.

After reading this thread, some have posted excellent examples of it's use in recordings.

Reverb is an effect, so use it as such and you will learn when to use it and why. It definitely adds thickening and ambience; depth.

An excellent question..wish someone explained it to me in my earlier days, when I was such a purist.

PluckyThump · #73 02-14-2013, 08:27 AM

My reverb is always-on. My rig is somewhat boxy-sounding and reverb helps fix that. I have it set very sensibly so that it adds a nice airyness but doesn't go over the top. It is particularly nice for ballads. Nobody in any band I have played with has ever said "**** turn off the reverb dude." If the room has a lot of natural reverb then will turn it off.

eddiebo · #74 02-14-2013, 08:37 AM

Roger Waters bass break in the Wall comes to mind

I would bet that many players get a reverb just to cop that for a bit, and then most realize thats all they really wanted it for and move on

The IE Nimbus gets that EXACT sound, btw...

Darknut · #75 02-14-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mistermark311

In the studio, reverb on bass can be really usable and effective if done properly. I've gotten the best results from plugins as I find most pedals don't allow for super fine adjustments or have the various adjustable parameters.

I like it best when its used in moderation and made to simulate a very, very small room with just a touch of pre delay in a sparse mix. This gives the bass a very pleasant resonate and full sound that really makes a difference.

-Mark

+1

Raymeous · #76 02-14-2013, 09:04 AM

Generally speaking I do agree with a lot of people that think reverb is an odd choice for bass, as it isn't that useful for your average "thump thump thump" ride the root note players. However reverb can be quite useful in a more creative enviroment than your average bar band.

Michael Manring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4Ra2KOyas

Zander Zon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIIhCX_Nu4

Emibass · #77 02-14-2013, 09:17 AM

I hate phasers, who in their sane minds would want a phaser for bass.

los100malditos · #78 02-14-2013, 09:18 AM

I LOVE REVERB ... I used to use it at home, but I SOLD MINE ´cause IN A BAND SITUATION ... JUST DID NOT WORK ... Some guys use it in their solos (Vail Johnson, Wooten, Marning) not my cup of tea.

Darknut · #79 02-14-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by los100malditos

I LOVE REVERB ... I used to use it at home, but I SOLD MINE ´cause IN A BAND SITUATION ... JUST DID NOT WORK ... Some guys use it in their solos (Vail Johnson, Wooten, Marning) not my cup of tea.

I use mine "IN A BAND SITUATION" all the time ... guess it depends on the type of band

VSR · #80 02-14-2013, 10:17 AM

In a music seminar I was told by a professional bass player that if bass must have something built in to it,to make it fit in more at a 3D environment that would be reverb.Expression pedal to adjust mix with reverb is crucial in a live context. In other instructional books that I have is mentioned that a decent reverb works very well in jazz solos.
I personally agree with all that. With reverb you can either make a nice sound,great or you can use it to create ambient atmospheres.
In the end of the day all that you want is to make your audience jump in to your "zone". I'm pretty sure that a delicate reverb on bass is on your favorite records. When I play with my band soloists seem to find inspiring extreme reverb settings and not muddy at all.
BTW I love my wet stereo reverb and the modulation reverb on my gt10b.