Bass vs Little (big muff)

Gashaponcito · #1 10-06-2008, 02:02 PM

Well... the Little Big Muff is kinda cool and everything it sounds great when I practice but in the band it just gets lost... I'm looking for something with the same sound but a little bit more presence is the BBM an alternative?? is there something the LBM has that is missed in the BBM?? any other pedal suggestions?? thanks!!

gm jack · #2 10-06-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gashaponcito

Well... the Little Big Muff is kinda cool and everything it sounds great when I practice but in the band it just gets lost... I'm looking for something with the same sound but a little bit more presence is the BBM an alternative?? is there something the LBM has that is missed in the BBM?? any other pedal suggestions?? thanks!!

Personally, I would avoid going with a BM other than the BBM, as they do cut enough low end to make you drop out of the mix in a band situation. You change from a bass to a slightly bassy guitar. Of course, if you biamp, blend or otherwise keep a clean signal running, go for it.

Otherwise, I would look around the Big Muff clones adjusted for bass if the BBM is not your cup of tea.

crapusername · #3 10-06-2008, 05:31 PM

if you really want a muff ish sound, then the BBM is definitely what you are needing.
the blend feature is fantastic, and will mean that you shouldn't get lost in the mix. of all of the muffs i've used, the bbm is the only one that has ended up on a board for me.

mattq · #4 10-06-2008, 06:35 PM

i don't really lose much in the lows with my setup. i don't know why that is. i usually have the tone knob on the darker side of noon though. i am still very much interested in potentially replacing it with the bbm though. it's apparently the cat's pajamas

playibanez · #5 10-06-2008, 07:00 PM

Well i just got a big muff and it disappointed me at practice today.

I didn't like the sound of the bass big muff with the sustain full on. It didn't sound like the big muff at all(to me)

The big muff was noisy as all hell and just didn't sound all that great. It sounds like a guitar distortion pedal used with bass(i know thats what it is but i figured with all the hype it would perform better)

So i might go and swap it out for the bass big muff.

Just one persons experience for anyone pondering which to get.

*edit i also used it with the tone no higher then 10*

JanusZarate · #6 10-06-2008, 07:13 PM

I LOVE the Bass Big Muff's tones above 11:00. While it won't get as gain-crazy as the LBM, it is truly bass-friendly.

Plus, it's fairly low-noise.

I'd highly suggest it as an excellent replacement for your LBM, provided that you don't need crazy gain and you still like the Muff sound. Should you need fuzzy chaos or a non-Muff tone, look elsewhere...

As for other Muff-ish pedals, the Earthbound Supercollider gets a lot of love, too, as do the Tonebender pedals and their clones (although Tonebenders are technically considered a separate group).

playibanez · #7 10-06-2008, 07:24 PM

mysticboo

Does the LBM get more fuzzy with the same overall tone of the big muff?

I like the sound but with the full band it was weak for me.

djwackfriz · #8 10-06-2008, 07:26 PM

I haven't tried the Bass Big Muff, but I use the LBM and a Line Splitter to always send some of my dry signal back to the amp... so far I have no complaints, but a trip to Guitar Center might change my mind...

Deluge Of Sound · #9 10-06-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by playibanez

mysticboo

Does the LBM get more fuzzy with the same overall tone of the big muff?

I like the sound but with the full band it was weak for me.

From what I can gather, the BBM is a little more "tame" than the typical Big Muff Sound. Part of the reason why I haven't switched my Russian out for one.

JanusZarate · #10 10-06-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by playibanez

mysticboo

Does the LBM get more fuzzy with the same overall tone of the big muff?

Overall tone of the American? Yep, but with better bottom end.

Not as great of a bottom end as the BBM, though. The BBM is modeled after a more aggressive, gritty Big Muff (the old Sovtek version), so it won't sound quite the same as the American. Plus it's lower gain overall... but unless you needed insane amounts of gain, it shouldn't be an issue.

The BBM does sit better in the mix, IME, than the other Muffs I've used.

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Originally Posted by playibanez

I like the sound but with the full band it was weak for me.

It won't fit in everywhere... it demands "room" to be heard. The BBM doesn't have as much of a problem.

playibanez · #11 10-06-2008, 07:47 PM

Yea i know what you mean on the room to be heard. I do need something that can cut through just a little better. Not through a full mix but i need it to stand strong in slower drum bass grooves with loud guitar ontop.

Im going to give the big muff another go and if i don't like it i'l try out the little big muff and/or bass muff

Gashaponcito · #12 10-06-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticBoo

I LOVE the Bass Big Muff's tones above 11:00. While it won't get as gain-crazy as the LBM, it is truly bass-friendly.

Plus, it's fairly low-noise.

I'd highly suggest it as an excellent replacement for your LBM, provided that you don't need crazy gain and you still like the Muff sound. Should you need fuzzy chaos or a non-Muff tone, look elsewhere...

As for other Muff-ish pedals, the Earthbound Supercollider gets a lot of love, too, as do the Tonebender pedals and their clones (although Tonebenders are technically considered a separate group).

And if I needed Chaos AND Muff tone where to look =O

Deluge Of Sound · #13 10-06-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gashaponcito

And if I needed Chaos AND Muff tone where to look =O

Russian Muff.