bass whammy vs EHX hog

[beyondhairy]

ok fellas, (and you tool fans lol)

lets talk about the bass whammy and the electro harmonix hog



first thing i want to say is... SIZE!!!

look how much freaken space you need for the hog, the expression pedal and the footswitch



the bass whammy wins the argument about size hands down...


settings...

the hog i believe has more usable settings then the bass whammy does, this is a personal opinion, but i think a lot of people will agree on it. and it even has the 5th^/oct^ that so many of us love the bass whammy for.


tracking, the bass whammy i know personally has the best tracking out of it, the wh-4 and the xp-100. but compared to the hog, not sure yet cuz i haven't tried it yet,

but according to some of the CRAZY demonstrations in this video (with a guitar)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bpropWsimUg

the tracking is spot on, and there are a few TBers that own the hog that will back me up on this.


cost: a bass whammy today will go anywhere between $450 and $700+ and yes i have seen them go that high.

a hog + foot switch will cost you $580 new, and about $500 on ebay, i have seen the hog alone go for between 350 and 400. with the foot switch costing around $110, even on ebay


discuss fellas, any insight?

[Tbirdbassist]

Bass Whammy wins cause of size and weight. Bass Whammy tracks more than well enough and it's TINY compared to frekkin 3sq feet of the HOG.

The way the HOG is set up as well, despite looking over it like 3 times... still seems a little confusing.

[Swimming Bird]

HOG wins in terms of more versatility and usability. It has a lot more possible harmonizations and bends as well as many more control options (such as the envelope and glissando mode) AND it has programmable presets.

I'd take a HOG over a Bass Whammy any day.

[Metropolis_488]

Wait, can the HOG do the pitch shift the way the Wammy does? What I mean is, will the HOG play the original un-effected signal and bend from a harmonized 5th up to a harmonized Octave up using the expressing pedal?

[j0n0j0n0]

what expression pedals work with the hog? all though the whammy is small the hog looks sexy

[Swimming Bird]

The HOG comes with its own expression pedal and yes, you can whammy with it.

[beyondhairy]

Originally Posted by Metropolis_488

Wait, can the HOG do the pitch shift the way the Wammy does? What I mean is, will the HOG play the original un-effected signal and bend from a harmonized 5th up to a harmonized Octave up using the expressing pedal?

yep


and im not 100% sure on this but i think you can even adjust it so the dry signal is completely gone so all you have is the 5th or the oct or what ever harmony

[eyvindwa]

Now, all I wanna know is; when does the Micro HOG come out?

[beyondhairy]

Originally Posted by eyvindwa

Now, all I wanna know is; when does the Micro HOG come out?

or IF it will come out lol

[Metropolis_488]

Originally Posted by beyondhairy

yep


and im not 100% sure on this but i think you can even adjust it so the dry signal is completely gone so all you have is the 5th or the oct or what ever harmony

Really!?? I read through the HOG instruction manual and it doesn't talk about this type of functionality.

From the instruction manual, it appears that you can remove the dry signal (slide the "Original" slider all the way down) for the whammy bend.

What is unclear from the manual is this - if you use the expression pedal to whammy bend the "generated" signal, does it also bend the "Original" signal? I am pretty sure that it does pitch shift the Original signal... Also, you can bend the harmonies up an octave or a half step with the expression pedal, not from a 5th to an Octave.

It appears to me that the functionality of the HOG is a little different than a Whammy.

[funkalicious101]

yeah, theres fifth up and octave settings on the hog, but not in the same way as they are on the bass whammy

[eyvindwa]

Originally Posted by funkalicious101

yeah, theres fifth up and octave settings on the hog, but not in the same way as they are on the bass whammy

Do you care to elaborate on that? Thanks

[funkalicious101]

they are harmony settings like the whammy but you cant shift from one to the other. you can have just one on or both on though.

[KarateKid25]

Man... The full HOG setup is huge!

[beyondhairy]

Originally Posted by funkalicious101

they are harmony settings like the whammy but you cant shift from one to the other. you can have just one on or both on though.

yes you can, thats what the expression pedal is for

[funkalicious101]

watch a tutorial or two, thats not what it does.

[beyondhairy]

Originally Posted by funkalicious101

watch a tutorial or two, thats not what it does.

i did watch it, and thats what i (think i) saw, that demo on youtube

[funkalicious101]

whammy pedal 5th/octave up:

toe up - harmonizes the dry out with the 5th of the input signal
toe down - harmonizes the dry out with the octave of the input signal
using the expression pedal you can do a continuous sweep between both of these settings

Hog 5th/octave setting:
harmonized the fifth/octave (either one of both) of the input signal. this is controlled with the sliders and the expression pedal has no effect on this setting at all.

[beyondhairy]

Originally Posted by funkalicious101

whammy pedal 5th/octave up:

toe up - harmonizes the dry out with the 5th of the input signal
toe down - harmonizes the dry out with the octave of the input signal
using the expression pedal you can do a continuous sweep between both of these settings

Hog 5th/octave setting:
harmonized the fifth/octave (either one of both) of the input signal. this is controlled with the sliders and the expression pedal has no effect on this setting at all.

ok wait, im still confused here.....

when i use the 5th/oct setting ont he hog, will it not give me my dry signal PLUS the 5th, then shift to the dry signal PLUS the oct?

if i understand you correctly, it will totally kill my dry signal and only give me the 5th or the oct?

[funkalicious101]

no, you can have any combination of the three. but you cannot sweep for a harmonized 5th to a harmonized octave