Bassballs? Where in the signal chain?

[GrooveWarrior]

Where do you put your bassballs? Before or after the distortion/fuzz?

I've got mine after the distortion, but it sucks the low end out something fierce.

What do you do?

[jamie'sdad]

i think i read somewhere that filters should come first in the signal chain as they rely on the attack and dynamics to work properly

i think that is also why they suggest that it not go through the FX loop, but between the bass and amp .. but have to say i am an FX noob so i am happy to be shouted down

[Deluge Of Sound]

I put mine before the distortion, which in my case is a Russian Muff into a Blue Box into other modulation and reverb. But I find the 'Balls sound best before the fuzz.

[Deluge Of Sound]

Originally Posted by jamie'sdad

i think i read somewhere that filters should come first in the signal chain as they rely on the attack and dynamics to work properly

i think that is also why they suggest that it not go through the FX loop, but between the bass and amp .. but have to say i am an FX noob so i am happy to be shouted down

Effects loops are mostly used with rack-mounted effects, if I believe. I don't utilize mine (or use any rack gear), so I could be just as incorrect.

[kevteop]

After all other octavers / fuzzes / filters, then I tweak the sense knob to get the tone I want out of it. It's quite a narrow band but it works.

Or you could put it earlier and use it as a regular envelope filter, but it will probably get swamped if you switch anything on after it.

[acleex38]

I run mine before everything (Clone Theory Chorus, then a Bluebeard fuzz).

[Justice]

mine stays in the gig box because its an unreliable piece of crap.

[markjazzbassist]

here's the chain i use

bass - octave - overdrive - distortion - fuzz - buffer (tuner) - envelope filter - bassballs - phaser - chorus - delay - amp

[GrooveWarrior]

I'm using a Boss LS-2 to get 2 loops going. In one loop I have a Boss OC-3. In the other loop I have a Bass Blogger (I actually like it, and I got it for $30) followed by the BassBalls.

I have been messing with blending the signals in different combinations. Here is something we did at rehearsal a couple of weeks ago. All pedals are on and it is going direct through my Phil Jones Bass Buddy.

[Ric5]

I split my signal and run my effects parallel and then recombine them ... A trick I learned from reading about Geddy's setup.

[jimmothy.green]

Originally Posted by Ric5

I split my signal and run my effects parallel and then recombine them ... A trick I learned from reading about Geddy's setup.

Please elaborate on the signal chain and the units/stomps you use. This sounds like something I've been trying to bring
together.


BTW. I run my BBalls first in my chain right into my BassBigMuff for some nasty nasty action.

[acleex38]

I was using my LS-2 to split into two signals

Channel A - my Boss OC-3
Channel B - Bassballs>Clone Theory>Bluebeard

The problem was that if I was running just the Clone Theory in B, mixed with A, I had a volume drop (possibly phase issues - according to others on the thread I started about the issue).

So for now, I'm running my stripped down Loopmaster>Bassballs>Clone Theory>Bluebeard Fuzz board. Once I get long enough patch cables, I'll do one with the Clone Theory outside of the LS-2 loops and the Bassballs still in Channel B with the Bluebeard.

[jimmothy.green]

That's not exactly firing off the synapsi(sp?) but it helps. Thanks!

[excane]

Good question, but it really depends on what the other pedals are going to be.

For example, if you want more of a classic filter with distortion sound then the filter should come first. If you want more of a synth sound, it would most likely sound better AFTER the dirt.

I have an overdrive before my Emma and I have a fuzz after to give me the option of dirt before or after the filter.

[GrooveWarrior]

Originally Posted by jimmothy.green

Please elaborate on the signal chain and the units/stomps you use. This sounds like something I've been trying to bring
together.


BTW. I run my BBalls first in my chain right into my BassBigMuff for some nasty nasty action.

I've also got an LS-2 and have my Boss OC-3 in the A Loop with the BassBlogger --> BassBalls in the B Loop, and blend them together.

I just switched the BassBalls and BassBlogger, and it didn't sound that great. The key with either direction is to NOT engage the distortion switch on the BassBalls when you are using it with a distortion pedal (in my experience, anyway).

The LS-2 is a great pedal, and I've got it powering my OC-3 and my BassBalls. I've got it all on a PedalTrain Jr. for a really nice setup.

I'm getting a Bass Big Muff to put in the signal chain as well. I'm thinking I'll put it either in the A Loop after the OC-3, or after the loop altogether. We'll see.

[Gubna]

Originally Posted by markjazzbassist

here's the chain i use

bass - octave - overdrive - distortion - fuzz - buffer (tuner) - envelope filter - bassballs - phaser - chorus - delay - amp

do you ever use them all at once?
and what does that sound like?