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Old 10-28-2008, 11:03 AM
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I was in my local gear shop the other day looking at a renter BDDI at a great price.

The sales dude chatted with me about it for a bit, then told me I should look at the tonebone or a straight D/I box instead of the bddi.

In doing this, he said the the circuitry of the bddi is covered by a plastic casing that, should i encounter a nasty power problem, can melt onto the circuit, rendering the entire unit useless.

I've never heard of this? I'm no BDDI expert, but I have looked into it enough as something I've always wanted but never actually acquired, and this was the first time I've heard of it.

Normally i would consider this a bait and switch, but the tonebone was also used--i can see a gain for the sales guy to steer me away from the BDDI.

any thoughts?

Also, anyone know of problems inherent with the BDDI that should stop me from grabbing a decent 4-5 year old model?

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Old 10-28-2008, 11:06 AM
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Just a metal case and circut board on the PDDI I used to have. I honestly don't remember anything like that, and I opened it up and had many a looksie. My gut reaction is that he's shitting you
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:12 AM
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I've used Tech 21 gear for years with NOOOOOO such problem whatsoever. Besides, if you have a nasty power problem, ANYTHING you buy would, in the worst case scenario, get destroyed.

The idea of a melting case is extremely unlikely. Mathematical odds are, you're more liable to die of a horrifying ground shock first.
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Never heard of this. The BDDI has a metal chassis.

If there is any additional plastic inside that covers the circuit, it's irrelevant. If you encounter a nasty power problem, some components will most likely be fried, and your pedal will stop working. End of story. All pedals are susceptible to this sort of thing, however.

There's nothing inherent about the BDDI's design that makes it more susceptible to this kind of problem.
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In doing this, he said the the circuitry of the bddi is covered by a plastic casing that, should i encounter a nasty power problem, can melt onto the circuit, rendering the entire unit useless.
Maybe some of the BDDI circuitry is encased in epoxy, but the sales person clearly doesn't know what they are talking about and you can ignore them.

Makes you wonder how much they REALLY know about anything they sell when crap like this is put forward as 'truth', doesn't it?
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...he said the the circuitry of the bddi is covered by a plastic casing that, should i encounter a nasty power problem, can melt onto the circuit, rendering the entire unit useless.
WE HAVE A WINNER!

That's the single most stupid thing I have heard all year, without a doubt.

The guy is bullshitting you and if I were you I'd be making a complaint to his manager - or maybe just going back there and bitch slapping him! That sort of tactic is just downright disgusting in my book. If he wanted you to buy the tonebone he should have just given you a great deal and let you decide.

If ANY electronic device gets hot enough to melt plastic, then regardless of what it is or who made it, it has SERIOUS issues!


What he is referring to is a small "potted" section of the circuit board. Under some specifically designed electronics potting compound is some proprietary circuitry. There is absolutely no adverse consequences of potting an electronic circuit except that it can never be repaired or modified.
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niftydog FTW! Great rant Especially the bitch slappin' part
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WE HAVE A WINNER!
Nice!
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That's the single most stupid thing I have heard all year, without a doubt.
Allow me to cast a little doubt:

Monster Bass Cable?

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Now, please begin doubting.
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Allow me to cast a little doubt:

Monster Bass Cable?



Now, please begin doubting.
Ooooooooo... Thats a tough one.
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Flounder was quite infamous for a while for posting those sort of comments.
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Ooooooooo... Thats a tough one.
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Allow me to cast a little doubt:
Ah, see I don't venture into cable threads for this very reason, so technically, up until just now, it was the most stupid thing I had read! At least Flounder kind of knew that good cables are supposed do good things! At some vague, microscopic level, if you substitute a few words in that sentence, and squint really hard at the test results, he might actually be right!
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:17 AM
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Ah, see I don't venture into cable threads for this very reason, so technically, up until just now, it was the most stupid thing I had read! At least Flounder kind of knew that good cables are supposed do good things! At some vague, microscopic level, if you substitute a few words in that sentence, and squint really hard at the test results, he might actually be right!
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This has been the most entertaining hijacking I've read.

I thought it was a false claim, but best to be sure.
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