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07-25-2011, 10:06 AM
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i looooooove the sound of the GK1001RBII!!! it's my sound, my amp!
i do want to add some more grit and juice to it though...and i dont want to change the sound to an SVT or anything like that, since i love the GK tone...
so...should i just get the BDDI and use it to warm the sound up a bit and add some grit that way, instead of changing the whole sound and character of the amp with a VT? i mean, i love the amp! i just want to add more "stuff"...
i do have a Musket and a few other booster pedals as well for some big fuzzy fun... |
07-25-2011, 10:08 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga. | | | I use a VT Deluxe with my 1001RB II and love it....
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07-25-2011, 10:10 AM
|  | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | | Both the BDDI and VT Bass are amp emulators. Their entire purpose is to change the tone of your amp to sound more like an Ampeg. The VT Bass does it much more successfully IMO but both of them will definitely change the tone of your rig.
The BDDI has a blend to let some of your normal tone through but I think you'd be better off going a different route. If you want a pedal that just adds a bit of grit while keeping your tone intact I'd look at something like the Barber LTD. I really love the Microtubes B3K but it isn't a cheap option. |
07-25-2011, 10:24 AM
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07-25-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by raul  i looooooove the sound of the GK1001RBII!!! it's my sound, my amp!
i do want to add some more grit and juice to it though...and i dont want to change the sound to an SVT or anything like that, since i love the GK tone...
| Neither then. They both will change your tone.
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07-25-2011, 10:39 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CO | | | VT Bass is excellent with my MB-500. The key is knowing the RB1001 flat EQ setting and the VT Bass flat EQ setting. Based on a thread in here the BL600, which is the same basic EQ as the RB1001, is approximately Treble -2, high mid +2, low mid -2, bass -2. Then set the VT Bass flat for starters per another thread in here (Bass +1, Mid +1, Treble at about 9 oclock). You can then EQ using either depending on what frequencies you are trying to target.
Then you gotta find the right spots on the character and drive knobs. For me they are both in the 11 oclock area. But there is a lot of change in those regions with a small tweek.
I did not like the VT Bass at first. I had to find the flat EQ setting on the GK and TURN OFF the BOOST completely. Then I started to find the VT bass magic. I like it for its tone but also for its lite tube compression response. It feels great loud to me compared to the GK which is just a little bit more squirrelly at high volumes. Kinda like a car with too much acceleration.
Upon rereading the OP, maybe this is not the pedal for you if you do not want to change your tone. If you are looking for a little grit, I would say turn up the boost on your GK. Or maybe look into an EBS Multidrive.
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07-25-2011, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by philter25 Neither then. They both will change your tone. | +1 ... neither is what you are looking for.
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07-25-2011, 01:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Planet Earth | | | ok, but wouldn't the BDDI be a good boost and it has a blend knob? and it's also a great DI...so that may be the ticket, yes? functions as both a DI and a boost/fat enhancer? |
07-25-2011, 01:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Planet Earth | | | also, doesn't using a VT/Deluxe just completely change the sound of your GK amp? why would you want to do that? |
07-25-2011, 02:00 PM
| | Bass players do it deeper. | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas City | | Quote:
Originally Posted by raul ok, but wouldn't the BDDI be a good boost and it has a blend knob? and it's also a great DI...so that may be the ticket, yes? functions as both a DI and a boost/fat enhancer? | It you're just looking for a fat boost and DI, your money may be better spent on a used EQ pedal and a passive DI. Not that the BDDI might not work for what you're talking about, I just think it would be overkill.
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07-25-2011, 02:08 PM
| | | | I also use the GK1001rb-II and use it with the BDDI. Just blend it till you have a nice mix. Used the VT, but it took away that GK-tone.
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07-25-2011, 02:20 PM
| | | | I use a VT with my 700RB and it sounds good. I also use it with my Hartke HA2500 and it sounds good too.
The good thing about the VT is it lets you have both, the GK sound or the SVT sound, without having to buy a new amp.
My settings for the VT are:
Level: 1 or 2 o'clock,
Bass, Mids, Treble: noon,
Character: 9 o'clock,
Drive: 9 o'clock. |
07-25-2011, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BassMonstrum I also use the GK1001rb-II and use it with the BDDI. Just blend it till you have a nice mix. Used the VT, but it took away that GK-tone. | Agreed. |
07-25-2011, 02:27 PM
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Endorsing Artist Ampeg Amps | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Irvine, California USA | | | I use the BDDI and it works better for me with my MB-500 than the VT.
It just gives me that little extra that I want.
Add in the DI factor and it's the right tool for the job.
The VT works better for me when I use a more "HI-Fi" amp like a Genz Benz or Eden type rigs. My two cents. |
07-25-2011, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by raul i do have a Musket and a few other booster pedals as well for some big fuzzy fun... | Then experiment further with what you have perhaps? I've found that using just a compressor before Shuttle6 I could get a much wider palette of overdrived tones. |
07-25-2011, 04:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Crown Point, IN | | I use a Sansamp RPM with my GK1001RBII. The tones I dial in between the 2 are MY sound. Can't live without either, but that's just me. 
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07-25-2011, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by raul i looooooove the sound of the GK1001RBII!!! it's my sound, my amp!
i do want to add some more grit and juice to it though...and i dont want to change the sound to an SVT or anything like that, since i love the GK tone...
so...should i just get the BDDI and use it to warm the sound up a bit and add some grit that way, instead of changing the whole sound and character of the amp with a VT? i mean, i love the amp! i just want to add more "stuff"...
i do have a Musket and a few other booster pedals as well for some big fuzzy fun... | I don't mess with my GK sound. If i want Ampeg lite, I have a Sansamp with a power amp.
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07-25-2011, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tigerbass I use a Sansamp RPM with my GK1001RBII. The tones I dial in between the 2 are MY sound. Can't live without either, but that's just me. | Agreed. I love putting my Paradriver between my bass and 1001RBII. Wouldn't think of doing it any other way. |
07-25-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tdub0199 I use a VT Deluxe with my 1001RB II and love it.... | I use the VT bass with a 1001rb II and I love it too  .
Whilst it can really change the intrinsic sound of the amp, the two work wonderfully together IMO. Glad you're enjoying the GK tone, it really is something else! |
07-25-2011, 09:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Perth Western Australia | | | I use the VT bass with my 1001rbII as well, and it sounds unreal once you dial it in.
Great for when your guitar player is doing ripping solo!
I also have a BDDI for my DI
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