which is best?

[sam-jaco]

Hello to you all. this is my first time posting on talkbass. I am a street performer who uses an rc-2 loops pedal to build up songs but now i want more out of my gear. i saw victor wooten and dane alderson doing a workshop in my town perth australia and was blown away with how they can build up and drop into different sections of their songs.

as far as i know they us boss gt6b's but also on the market is rc-50 loops pedal and the rc-20xl. what i want out of my gear is the ability to put on loops on take them off with the ease that victor and dane did. what do you think would be my best option?

[dokazaado]

if you can find one - Gibson Echoplex.

[RickenBoogie]

I use the RC20xl, and while it has more capabilities than your RC-2, the RC50 is what you really want.

[kenstee]

Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

I use the RC20xl, and while it has more capabilities than your RC-2, the RC50 is what you really want.

I'm not sure the RC20xl or the RC50 have the drum rhythms that the RC-2 has. If you use that function of the RC-2 you might miss it. As a street performer I would imagine that having the drums would be a real plus for you. I'm far from an expert on this and there very well might be ways around this. I do have the RC-2 and find the drum option a real advantage - limited as they might be.

[Explorer]

Originally Posted by sam-jaco

Hello to you all. this is my first time posting on talkbass. I am a street performer who uses an rc-2 loops pedal to build up songs but now i want more out of my gear. i saw victor wooten and dane alderson doing a workshop in my town perth australia and was blown away with how they can build up and drop into different sections of their songs.

as far as i know they us boss gt6b's but also on the market is rc-50 loops pedal and the rc-20xl. what i want out of my gear is the ability to put on loops on take them off with the ease that victor and dane did. what do you think would be my best option?

So, here's a quick observation: If you're looking to get yourself a piece of equipment which will equal what Wooten and Alderson have, and you know what they have... then why not get what they have?

The RC-50 is more expensive than the GT-6B, incidentally, and the RC-20XL is less. If I were thinking of busking, I'd go with the one-piece solution which does exactly what I want in terms of looping (especially if I've seen someone use it for such), and which also does more, so I only have an instrument, amp and modeler to plug in before playing, and only those pieces to pack up.

Remember, of course, that the GT-6B uses 14v/800mA, and plan your power supply accordingly.

Originally Posted by dokazaado

if you can find one - Gibson Echoplex.

It really does top the looper market, but I can't imagine taking a rack-mount unit and foot controller on the street. If you're busking with it, you're a better man than I....

[Bryan R. Tyler]

Originally Posted by Explorer

It really does top the looper market, but I can't imagine taking a rack-mount unit and foot controller on the street. If you're busking with it, you're a better man than I....

The Looperlative has actually been out-Echoplexing the Echoplex for years now, but I agree that busking with a rack setup would not be ideal at all. You need a multitrack looper if you want to add and remove tracks at will. The GT-6B won't do that at all- it has a very limited sound on sound function, and that's it. The RC-50, or for an even more compact solution, the Boomerang III would both give you what you want.

[Explorer]

Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler

The Looperlative has actually been out-Echoplexing the Echoplex for years now, but I agree that busking with a rack setup would not be ideal at all.

How long ago was the Digital Echoplex blow-out? *laugh* I'm glad I don't watch the market for "bigger and/or better" all the time.

I did just read the manual for the Looperlative, and can see how it would be tempting, considering it's got more stereo time than the Digital Echoplex has mono time. The only oversight in the manual (if it is one) is that they didn't mention how to undo on the Looperlative. And if it's not an oversight, but a genuine lack of an undo function on the machine... I'll keep the Echoplex.

Consider it a flaw in my ability to overdub perfectly every time. *laugh*

[Bryan R. Tyler]

The Looperlative has undo. It also has two different Replace functions that will let you undo or re-record just part of a loop. I actually almost never use undo myself though- since there's eight tracks, almost all of my subsequent loops go onto other tracks rather than being stacked on top of one another on the same track. Lots of folks still prefer the stacking method even with the extra tracks.

Of course, neither would be a good choice for the original poster. I saw the Boomerang III in person for the first time yesterday- it's tiny.