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Old 03-14-2010, 09:18 AM
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Best auto-wah (auto wah, autowah) or dynamic envelope filter for bass?

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Looking for good auto-wah sound for slapping. I have an EH Bassballs, but I find the applications to be very limited. Can people share their experiences with other filter effects they've used? MXR? EBS? Thanks!
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:03 AM
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another envelope filter thread! gotta love `em!

personally i love my emma discumbobulator , also a q tron plus does it for me..

did you know you can tweak the two trimpots inside the bassballs ??
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:53 AM
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i have heard tons of great stuff about the 3leaf audio groove regulator. its well priced and looks pretty versitile
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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Anyone have experience with the EH Enigma Qballs?
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:31 AM
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+1 for GR when slapping - it works great with the old thump n pluck
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Old 03-14-2010, 12:46 PM
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Filters are pretty subjective. I loved my old Q-tron but now I'm eying the Groove Regulator in hopes of a more "tasteful" pedal. I wasn't crazy about the AF-9 or the Bass IQ when I tried them. The AF-9 seemed a little bland compared to the Q-tron and the Bass IQ seemed a little thin. The MXR Bass Auto Q was good, a little tamer than the Q-tron though not boring, but I really insist on both up and down sweeps because I really don't want to start collecting multiple filters, and 9 volt operation is a major plus.

When I tried the Maxon and EBS I still had the Q-tron and A/Bed them. I'm not sure if the comparison kept me from appreciating each pedal for it's own qualities as I kept reinforcing my expectations for the Q-tron's sound. After trading away the Q-tron my experience with the MXR was very different. I liked it fine and appreciated it's more subtle nature. Maybe my tastes have matured. I did after all get a bit tired of the Q-tron and had stopped using it very much. Or maybe my head just spins in cycles. I do notice when A/Bing equipment that my ears expectations will make one piece of gear sound bad after a switch until I adjust.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:27 PM
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The Mutron III is really the only envelope filter that has worked for me.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:48 PM
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theres no best but there are some recomendable(sp?) ones:

Snow White Auto Wah ( you can build your own of these )
Emma Discumbobulator
EH Q-tron and her cousins.
Vintage Mutron III ( never liked the reissue )
EH Bass Micro Synth
Agent 00Funk
Seamoon Funk Machine
Dr.Q ( didnt do much for me )
EBS Bassiq ( Felt slow to respond )

theres too many to list perhaps...
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Old 03-14-2010, 02:00 PM
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Groove regulator.
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Old 03-14-2010, 02:37 PM
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i love my Bass IQ triple envelope filter. It works great, its heavy duty, and sounds great. And it also has many ways to customize your sound to get it exactly what you want. And you can also have an auto wah effect on it. It may be a little pricey, but i absolutely love it.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:24 PM
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Anyone have experience with the EH Enigma Qballs?
Excellent envelope filter....love mine.
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:02 PM
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DOD FX25 and FX25B are interesting options.
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I just bought an FX25B and no matter how the knobs are set, it absolutely murders the clean bass tone before the filter opens; like a wet blanket over the speakers.
Complete trash as to what it does before the effect hits; effect itself is not bad though.
Bought this so that the very clean Mutron could remain at home; don't need a huge amount of effect, just some moderate wha sound but not at the expense of the original signal.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:29 AM
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Groove regulator.
Indeed.

I researched auto-wahs for a long time, and I was this close (pinching fingers together in front of one eye) to getting an Enigma Qballs when I came across the Groove Regulator....made by a guy in my hometown, even.

A couple emails to Spencer, and trip to Bass NW, and now I'm a proud owner. Fantastic pedal.

It avoids all the issues that seem to come up with other auto-wahs: no volume jump, no bass loss, no funky power requirements, small size, and enough control to be creative, but not so much that it becomes cumbersome.

Fantastic pedal.
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:43 AM
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I listened to the sound clips on the 3Leaf Audio website and I'm very impressed. Beautiful slap and funk tones, and very versatile. I wish it was a little cheaper, but I guess that's true for all good bass equipment. Thanks for the recommendations, all!
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Old 03-25-2010, 03:29 PM
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+1 for groove regulator (can't say anything bad about this filter, sound good for everything: slap, finger, mute and synth with fuzz)

+1 Vintage Mutron III (the abs best IMHO but volume control is an issue, have to learn how to use the dynamics and its pricey)

The MXR M82 sounds great and seems to have a consistent response good for slap, I'd ask Funkinthetrunk for his thoughts on that.

I also think the Qballs does a better synth fuzz than the bass balls, it has to many knobs for some people though. Trim pot adjustments didn't do much for me when I messed with them.
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I listened to the sound clips on the 3Leaf Audio website and I'm very impressed. Beautiful slap and funk tones, and very versatile. I wish it was a little cheaper, but I guess that's true for all good bass equipment. Thanks for the recommendations, all!
I got mine at Tone Factor in LA for only $200.
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Old 03-25-2010, 06:35 PM
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The MXR M82 sounds great and seems to have a consistent response good for slap, I'd ask Funkinthetrunk for his thoughts on that.
The M82 sounds good for slap....but better with fingerstyle IMO.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:05 AM
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Not many on TB seem to use these, but the Mad Prof Snow White Auto Wah is a really good one.
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