Best Tremolo for... - Page 3

meursault42 · #41 02-24-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by One Bad Monkey

Thank you, sir.

I hope you enjoy your new Trem as much as I enjoy mine.

Hey, btw, have you heard anything from/about Joe Ayoub recently? Hasn't been much on the ol' inter-web since Population Game's last album.

rnilson · #42 02-25-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pantherairsoft

If you can find one the old Boss PN-2 is AMAZING on bass. Janek Gwizdala mentioned it at a bass clinic and I managed to get one on eBay and my goodness he's not wrong. The current Boss trem is a bit weak on bass though. I have heard great things about the Demeter so that would be a good start.

My other tremolos are complex and not 'simple' as you requested so I'll leave my recommendations at that!

So the TR2 is weak sauce? Is it because of the volume drop or because It loses low end.

How is the Beringher PN-2 copy? There copy of the VB-2 is really good.

I had a Seymour Duncan Shape Shifter and it was really good. It had lots of control over all perameters and I dug the Tap Tempo. I really regret selling it.

One Bad Monkey · #43 02-25-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by meursault42

Hey, btw, have you heard anything from/about Joe Ayoub recently? Hasn't been much on the ol' inter-web since Population Game's last album.

No, can't say that I have. I've seen him playing with Enrique Iglesias again, so I'd assume he (and the other guys) are just busy.

pantherairsoft · #44 02-25-2012, 09:40 AM

I found the TR2 lost some bottom end. I use a lot of LOW bass in my sound and it really struggled, though the PN2 seems to take it fine.

I have no experience with the Beringher copy so I wouldn't want to say. Though if it proves to perform well that would make a great cost effective option for bass players.

meursault42 · #45 02-25-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pantherairsoft

I found the TR2 lost some bottom end. I use a lot of LOW bass in my sound and it really struggled, though the PN2 seems to take it fine.

I have no experience with the Beringher copy so I wouldn't want to say. Though if it proves to perform well that would make a great cost effective option for bass players.

This whole PN-2 vs. TR-2 thing raises a question that I'm sure has been asked over and over again. Why the hell does Boss make these classic, industry standard effects pedals and then stop production on them, just to come out with some milktoast version of the same thing later on. I don't get it. Someone please help me understand...

bongomania · #46 02-25-2012, 10:25 AM

Each redesign is meant to reduce manufacturing cost. Fewer parts, cheaper parts, and parts specifically chosen because they are available in batches of a million or more units, dependably. In order to meet all three criteria, the circuit has to be altered a little, and this changes the effect a little... Or sometimes more than a little. The reason the later versions are almost never better than the older ones is that "tone" would be a fourth criteria that just adds to the R&D cost.

TheWoodShed · #47 02-25-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by meursault42

This whole PN-2 vs. TR-2 thing raises a question that I'm sure has been asked over and over again. Why the hell does Boss make these classic, industry standard effects pedals and then stop production on them, just to come out with some milktoast version of the same thing later on. I don't get it. Someone please help me understand...

Production costs.

That said if anyone can get thier hands on an Iron Ether Cygnet that is a good option. I had a Guyatone Tube Trem and it did choppy very well, but it was noisy.

meursault42 · #48 02-25-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Each redesign is meant to reduce manufacturing cost. Fewer parts, cheaper parts, and parts specifically chosen because they are available in batches of a million or more units, dependably. In order to meet all three criteria, the circuit has to be altered a little, and this changes the effect a little... Or sometimes more than a little. The reason the later versions are almost never better than the older ones is that "tone" would be a fourth criteria that just adds to the R&D cost.

Ah, yes of course. Better to make a hugely profitable piece of s*** than to make a marginally profitable musical instrument.

Chowowbus · #49 02-26-2012, 07:58 PM

I used to use a guyatone vt 3. It had a large volume spike when engaged and it was also a bit clanky sounding. The guyatone also uses plastic jacks and is so small that it is easy to kick the knobs when stomping it. I bought a boss TR-2 and I have been happy ever since. I like how easy it is to use and I do not notice a volume drop in mine. It sounds warm and is durable as hell.

rnilson · #50 02-26-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chowowbus

I used to use a guyatone vt 3. It had a large volume spike when engaged and it was also a bit clanky sounding. The guyatone also uses plastic jacks and is so small that it is easy to kick the knobs when stomping it. I bought a boss TR-2 and I have been happy ever since. I like how easy it is to use and I do not notice a volume drop in mine. It sounds warm and is durable as hell.

I have heard boss has corrected the volume drop on newer models, and there are lots of keely modded ones out there.

pantherairsoft · #51 03-02-2012, 05:36 PM

So how has the PN-2 worked out for you?

Shep

meursault42 · #52 03-02-2012, 05:48 PM

Hey dude, it's sweet! Thx for checking in. I was a little pissed at myself for not being patient and holding out for a minty PN-2 on eBay. It ended up going for $122 (2 days ago)!!! Came with box and everything...lesson learned. Mine's fine though, lightly relic'd, so to speak

Yeah, it's a very lush sound. GREAT for the synthy stuff, and fantastic for maintaining the low end. Love it. The only thing that I would change is the range of the Rate knob. I think I'd dump the super slow side in favor of the quicker, ring mod-y side.

Cheers!

pantherairsoft · #53 03-02-2012, 05:56 PM

Fair comment. To be honest I thought the same at first - but in a musical settin I've found that it works best just a tad off the top speed. Also sounds great on a slow setting (around 10-11o'clock with the amount rolled right back so it adds a subtle fluid movement under your groove. Works great for dance-y electro stuff.

Glad you like it anyway!

meursault42 · #54 03-03-2012, 05:45 PM

You know, I'm finding that the LFO in the PN-2 seems to affect the background "hum" in my practice setup (w/ headphones) even when the pedal is disengaged. I'm assuming this is a power-related issue and that the LFO is interfering because of the buffered bypass. But the resulting sound is this very-faint-but-constant 'ticking' sound. Certainly can't hear it while playing. But when I'm just sitting there switching to the next track or whatever, you can definitely hear it. Anybody else experience this?

meursault42 · #55 03-04-2012, 07:40 AM

Placing a buffer in front of the PN-2 seems to fix the issue.

pantherairsoft · #56 03-04-2012, 04:24 PM

I have 2 buffered units before mine so can't say I ever noticed (and as you suggest, I assume that would remove the noise). You gotta love the way some pedals don't play nice!

Tbirdbassist · #57 03-04-2012, 04:37 PM

I love my PN2. I'm glad I discovered Mars Volta and Juan Alderete back in 2005, lol. I think I paid 150 shipped back in 2006 though, mine is super clean. Taiwan made. I run it before by two delays, after my distortions...

OptimusPrime · #58 11-23-2012, 09:18 PM

What's the opinion on the Electro-Harmonix Micro Pulsar?

takfar · #59 11-24-2012, 10:12 AM

I bought the ebs tremolo specifically for choppy, and it works great for that as well as other types of trem. It's also got a filter mode which is aimed at retaining lows, and it really works. If it's not in filter mode the volume actually auto-corrects so you're not losing any. So, great sound, functionality and form factor... the only thing it does not do is tap tempo, which could be a deal breaker if you depend on that.