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09-25-2011, 09:44 AM
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Looking for a pedal or combination of pedals that'll give me long drawn out sound with a sweep low to high and back again sound.
Example: intro to this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLVlYbB2YR4&feature=fvst
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09-25-2011, 09:48 AM
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09-25-2011, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix Dude, use the search function...tons of threads about this topic. | Did, heaps on other synth features, couldn't find any on this style.
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09-25-2011, 09:58 AM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | | Well that's really more of a volume sweep than anything else. I didn't hear much of a filter at all (at least in that example). A volume pedal will do the trick, but as for automatic ones, try the boss slow gear or various clones of it. | 
09-25-2011, 10:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Gainesville,FL | | | Alright then, I can only speak about what I have. It is an expensive option, Roland GR-55, it has a built-in expression pedal that could control the volume.
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09-25-2011, 10:14 AM
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09-25-2011, 10:19 AM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefuneral Volume pedal it is, maybe with an octaver, just for a higher pitch. | You also easily get that high sound with a filter that has a resonant frequncy that's adjustable and not envelope controlled. This guy from Iron Ether will do the trick: Xerograph - Iron Ether
Plus if you get an expression pedal along with it, you have a super versatile filter... | 
09-25-2011, 10:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | Pitch shifter, volume control, maybe some reverb/ delay. That is what I am hearing.
On an unrelated note, as soon as this genre learns to sing, I am totally on board. I hope the lead singer makes some money with the band, I think he's going to need it for the throat surgery. That sounds like it hurts, and not emotionally. | 
09-25-2011, 12:47 PM
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09-25-2011, 12:48 PM
| | | | That sounds like a typical orchestral pad on many synths, with the higher keys being played after the lower keys. In the video, he's using an Alesis synth.
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09-25-2011, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin On an unrelated note, as soon as this genre learns to sing, I am totally on board. I hope the lead singer makes some money with the band, I think he's going to need it for the throat surgery. That sounds like it hurts, and not emotionally. | Screamo band mate. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Explorer That sounds like a typical orchestral pad on many synths, with the higher keys being played after the lower keys. In the video, he's using an Alesis synth. | So to recreate this many different notes should be play for that sweep effect?
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09-25-2011, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by whitefuneral Screamo band mate. | Perhaps. There's a lot in there that I like and am impressed with, but jeepers I can't listen to screech as the main course. Quote: |
So to recreate this many different notes should be play for that sweep effect?
| There are probably a lot of ways to achieve this upper register delay without a synth, but I think most would be pretty complex and difficult to do live.
The HOG has a function where it will delay the envelope of the upper octaves only, but it has a laundry list of problems; mainly the price and size (the sound and versatility are not among its problems IMO).
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09-26-2011, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin Perhaps. There's a lot in there that I like and am impressed with, but jeepers I can't listen to screech as the main course. | well that's up to you. Quote: |
Originally Posted by cheapbasslovin There are probably a lot of ways to achieve this upper register delay without a synth, but I think most would be pretty complex and difficult to do live.
The HOG has a function where it will delay the envelope of the upper octaves only, but it has a laundry list of problems; mainly the price and size (the sound and versatility are not among its problems IMO). | POG you mean, I've looked at that before and I didn't really like it for the floors you just presented.
I'm actually enjoying the envelope mode on the boss aw-3. What are your thought on it?
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09-26-2011, 10:14 AM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefuneral POG you mean, I've looked at that before and I didn't really like it for the floors you just presented.
I'm actually enjoying the envelope mode on the boss aw-3. What are your thought on it? | The POG and the Hog are two different beasts. The POG ( +micro POG, POG 2) are all digital polyphonic octavers that do nothing more. The POG 2 has two more octaves to add to the signal (just like the older big box POG), and it also has many different filters and a switchable Q to get the sound your looking for. It may actually do the sound your looking for quite nicely.
The HOG will do it for sure, and also has way more features and useful functions (glissando, freeze, envelope etc), along with the filter section. It is pretty big though. | 
09-26-2011, 10:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | | Like Joe said, I meant the HOG. It's even bigger than the old POG, but an amazing piece of gear.
I didn't care for the AW-3 when I played through it. It is hard to explain why, but I think the easiest way to say it is that it wasn't Tron enough for me, and wasn't unique enough in other ways to get my attention. I only messed with it for a short time, though, and that was a while ago. I wouldn't expect it to be a good filter for emulating that intro, but experimentation may prove me wrong. | 
09-26-2011, 11:04 AM
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09-26-2011, 03:49 PM
|  | no really, smokemeth&hailsatan | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pueblo, CO | | ^well honestly its a lot of studio work of an orchestra intro into the band with the transition being synchronized by what sounds like a reverse delay you actually hear in a lot of music these days. Take the opening drum hits on Bongrippers Snuff Film for instance: Snuff Film | Bongripper | 
09-26-2011, 07:06 PM
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I don't want to replicate this just a general idea of what the sound will be like.
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