Bitcrusher'd!

[DanGouge]

So my keyboard player did a synth recording of a bass part I had done and it sounded awesome 'cause he'd gone and bitcrushed it like crazy.

I've done some looking and right now I'm seriously considering going for the Catalinbread Heliotrope as my bitcrushing emulator. Is there anything else out there that I should consider? I have heard good things about the bugcrusher but also that it's hard to come by.

[rnilson]

Yes, the heliotrope is one of the only "bitcrushers" in pedal form that is still in production. Other hard to find options are bug crusher, alesis bitrman, and a long awaited but not out yet Malekko Holley Erectus.
If you post the track we can tell you if the heliotrope can get you there. It is not what I would call a classic bit crushed sound, although it does do some of that. It does do a nice digital type emulation though.

[Jared Lash]

I've got a Heliotrope, and am still awaiting the Holley Erectus which apparently is now going to be a true digital bitcrusher.

The WMD Geiger Counter is another pedal that can do "bitcrushing-like" tones, and a lot of dirty, lo-fi distortion as well. Lots of sound samples (some on bass) on their website.

As for the Heliotrope, obviously it isn't really a bit crusher, being an analog pedal. I believe what's going on is that it works similar to a ring modulator to some degree. A ring mod will take your input frequency and the carrier frequency and add and subtract them, spitting out both tons (sum and difference). I believe the Catalinbread just kicks out the difference of the two tones. So with the gain off, it sounds like a somewhat more subtle ring mod.

And with the gain adding some fuzz, it gives it a more lo-fi quality. It's a fun box, but one caveat is that it is unpredictable in terms of what you'll get note to note. You might pluck one note and get a gong/bell like ring mod type tone and then a half fret away you get a high pulsing dissonance.

My main use for it is to run it in front of the Moog Low Pass with a filter regulating cutoff for synthy sounds.

Hope that helps.

[rcubed]

Yeah, the only way to properly bit crush is to do it digitally.

[bigchiefbc]

I use the Bitrman, and love it. Keep in mind though that it is really not a stompbox. Its bypass switch is just a plastic button, and I would definitely advise again stomping on it full-force. I tend to do a light toe-tap on it. All of that aside, the sound it puts out is the cat's pajamas

[groooooove]

weird that this thread just popped up.. ive been producing my bands next album for the last few weeks, and theres quite a bit of bitcrushing.. on keyboard solos / as an abstract effect..

i diddnt know they existed in pedal form.. this may end up costing me some cash, that i probobly dont have..

how does bitcrushing react to bass tracks..does it preserve some bottom?

[rnilson]

Well, I think you need to realize like Big O said the heliotrope is not true bit crushing. I don't know of a pedal that is in production that does true digital bit reduction.
True bit reduction can do really cool things to the low end. The heliotrope on the other hand does reduce the low in most settings.

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by rnilson

Well, I think you need to realize like Big O said the heliotrope is not true bit crushing. I don't know of a pedal that is in production that does true digital bit reduction.
True bit reduction can do really cool things to the low end. The heliotrope on the other hand does reduce the low in most settings.

Not in production, no. The two that I know of that do real digital bit reduction (the Bitrman and the Frostwave Sonic Alienator) have both been discontinued.

[rcubed]

Sounds like I might have to proceed with developing one. I've talked about this with a co-worker and we've come up with some neat ideas. He said it's easy to do.

[rnilson]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Sounds like I might have to proceed with developing one. I've talked about this with a co-worker and we've come up with some neat ideas. He said it's easy to do.

I would buy one.

[DanGouge]

Originally Posted by TheBigO

I've got a Heliotrope, and am still awaiting the Holley Erectus which apparently is now going to be a true digital bitcrusher.

Any idea about a street date for that one?

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by DanGouge

Any idea about a street date for that one?

Hard to say. I tossed emails back and forth with Josh in January and he said it would be finalized in "a couple months" but then again, I think everyone thought the new Malekko delays would be available by now. And their reverb pedal seemed to come out of nowhere.

I get the feeling a LOT is going on over at Malekko so it's hard to tell which products will be out when.

[Gashaponcito]

you can always build one
http://www.thesquarewaveparade.com/i...crusher-9v.gif

[Joe Gress]

Originally Posted by TheBigO

I get the feeling a LOT is going on over at Malekko so it's hard to tell which products will be out when.

It looks like they are releasing a whole bunch of modules.

They even have an Echo 600 module in their laboratory section now.

[jetofuj]

Originally Posted by TheBigO

Hard to say. I tossed emails back and forth with Josh in January and he said it would be finalized in "a couple months" but then again, I think everyone thought the new Malekko delays would be available by now. And their reverb pedal seemed to come out of nowhere.

I get the feeling a LOT is going on over at Malekko so it's hard to tell which products will be out when.

I hope Josh won't forget about PlasterCaster. In fact this is the only pedal I'm looking forward.

[Jared Lash]

Originally Posted by jetofuj

I hope Josh won't forget about PlasterCaster. In fact this is the only pedal I'm looking forward.

I never did hear any details on that one. Is is a new version of the Mu-Tron Octave Divider, or am I thinking of something else?

[jetofuj]

Josh suggested this in this thread:

Mutron Octave Divider score

[ScottB.]

What is bitcrushing?

[rnilson]

Originally Posted by ScottB.

What is bitcrushing?

It is a digital process where the sample rate of a noise is reduced. Think original nintendo sounds.