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Old 06-15-2011, 12:53 PM
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I have the brown dog. I have a bk3 coming and was thinking of getting an oxide to go with my xerograph.
do these pedals cover any of the same sonic terrain? should i buy the oxide?
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:19 PM
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I own all three.

The B3K doesn't really cover any similar ground to the Brown Dog or Oxide. It's a mild to heavy overdrive and they are both fuzzes. It's a nice compliment to either or both.

The Chunk and the Iron Ether both do some of the same things but have significantly different flavors. Both can do very synthy gated fuzz tones. The Oxide has a wider range and can cop Brassmaster tones. The Brown Dog (as you know) has a more nasally sounding fuzz and IMO cops old school tube amp like fuzz sounds better.

I definitely dig all three pedals for what they bring to the table.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:36 PM
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I own all three.

The B3K doesn't really cover any similar ground to the Brown Dog or Oxide. It's a mild to heavy overdrive and they are both fuzzes. It's a nice compliment to either or both.

The Chunk and the Iron Ether both do some of the same things but have significantly different flavors. Both can do very synthy gated fuzz tones. The Oxide has a wider range and can cop Brassmaster tones. The Brown Dog (as you know) has a more nasally sounding fuzz and IMO cops old school tube amp like fuzz sounds better.

I definitely dig all three pedals for what they bring to the table.
thanks for the great reply
Do you own a Xerogaph?
what do you think of the oxide xerograph combo?
is a delxue model worth the purchase if i get the oxide? mods from iron either for either?
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:50 PM
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thanks for the great reply
Do you own a Xerogaph?
what do you think of the oxide xerograph combo?
is a delxue model worth the purchase if i get the oxide? mods from iron either for either?
Yes, I have a Xero Deluxe. The Oxide/Xero combo is a great one. I would say it generally has a more aggressive sound than the Brown Dog/Xero combo.

The only real question on the Xero vs Xero Deluxe is whether you want to use it as an envelope filter or solely as a static or swept low pass filter.

For me, that's a no brainer. The Xero is phenomenal as a straight low pass filter but why not add fantastic envelope filter sounds as well?
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:31 AM
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hey jared, anyone
have a couple questions concerning the brown dog i just bought from the tb classifieds. remember i am new to effects so could be a stupid question.
when i turn the drive nob it crackles and more when its on the synthy side, is this normal? it does not do it with any other nobs.
my guitarist thinks the synthy side on the drive nob is not working properly. and make little difference if at all unless the gate is all the way to the left sloopy and the drive is all the way synth.
any thoughts?
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:47 AM
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Do you mean it crackles when you turn the pot or when you play a note?
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:50 AM
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Do you mean it crackles when you turn the pot or when you play a note?
oh that is what a pot is.
turn the pot.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:00 AM
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oh that is what a pot is.
turn the pot.
It sounds like you have a dirty pot. BTW, I played a brown dog at a GTG a while ago, and I think it had crackly pots too.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:34 AM
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dirty pot
sounds like something I got in mexico.
How to clean dirty pots?
whats a GTG?

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Old 06-18-2011, 02:24 PM
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I agree and we need to get the dubist down from all that humboldt greenery.

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Old 06-18-2011, 02:26 PM
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GTG = Get ToGether. a bunch of TB geeks hanging out. LOADS of fun.

Matt - think it's time to try to do 'nother Bay Yarea 'un?
nice.
sometimes it sucks being so isolated up here. but it has its up sides

would the dirty pot effect the end sound other then the crackling?
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:36 PM
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You know I'm in for another bay gtg. I thought the spot was good too.

A dirty pot shouldn't affect the sound other than a crackle while turning the knob, but it could be a sign that something else is wrong or damaged. Might want to email chunk. Seems like Richard(?) is very good about answering questions.
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Old 06-18-2011, 03:58 PM
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Sounds like fun, too bad I'm a couple thousand miles away!

I would get the Oxide just because it is especially awesome with the Xerograph. I went with the deluxe model because it ups the versatility and is a very very good envelope filter. Also, when set properly, the downsweep mode is worth the price of the pedal alone IMO.

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Old 06-18-2011, 04:48 PM
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:26 AM
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Yeah and I would take a lesson from you to learn some of those slick moves I hear on soundcloud
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not to hijack, will start a "GtG-murrrrr?" thread later today, but i'd throw in $20 on a ticket to watch the Sterling One lay down the funk.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:23 PM
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I would love to make that happen!!! If the timing works out, I am SO in. Been awhile since I was out west anyway...
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I have the brown dog. I have a bk3 coming and was thinking of getting an oxide to go with my xerograph.
do these pedals cover any of the same sonic terrain? should i buy the oxide?
If you like warm fuzz sounds, you might find the oxide fuzz to be an interesting pedal to buy.
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