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Old 02-04-2008, 05:12 PM
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got the boss aw-3 last december (a gift), i'm aware that not many people dig it to begin with, but i would love any advice on how to get a good setting on the thing. everything i try is either really thin and tone sucking or distorted. the auto-wah
feature is kinda cool, a little noisy though. any suggestions ?
as it stands now i like the wah in my zoom b2 better.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:28 PM
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Sounds like your classic guitar pedal bass-suck issue. The reason it sounds thin (or sucky) is because it filters the low frequencies - some bass-specific pedals reintroduce low end near the output of the circuit to compensate. The distortion is due to the notch filter making the wah sound clipping - this is probably due to a high input signal amplitude, probably from an active bass??!

Two things you could try:
  • blend the effect with your clean signal.
  • increase the voltage supplying the pedal.

Before you try a higher supply voltage, check the battery and/or power supply you're using is up to spec. You wouldn't want to go much further than 12V, especially long term.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:02 AM
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Sounds like your classic guitar pedal bass-suck issue. The reason it sounds thin (or sucky) is because it filters the low frequencies - some bass-specific pedals reintroduce low end near the output of the circuit to compensate. The distortion is due to the notch filter making the wah sound clipping - this is probably due to a high input signal amplitude, probably from an active bass??!

Two things you could try:
  • blend the effect with your clean signal.
  • increase the voltage supplying the pedal.

Before you try a higher supply voltage, check the battery and/or power supply you're using is up to spec. You wouldn't want to go much further than 12V, especially long term.
I actually don't think this is the right way to go because:
1) The pedal has a dedicated Bass-input
2) It's digital (that is my understanding anyway), so higher supply voltage is NOT recommended.

First, are you using the bass input? Second, what setting are you using? Make sure you stay away from the "sharp" mode, it's really thin. Also, start the "decay" control right in the middle of the range, and tweak from there. Maybe it's sounding weak because it's sweeping too fast for you to notice. Also, make sure you have the sensitivity set so that it sweeps on every note. It's not an envelope-filter which will sweep on any input dynamics, it's a trigger-controlled sweep, so it might just not be sweeping.

Ultimately, it is just weak though, that's why I sold mine. And it's been a while since I sold it, so I don't really remember much about how to use it. Sorry.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:34 AM
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thanks for the insight,
i'm afraid it's just thin.. any thoughts on the ebs envelope filter?
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:07 PM
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1) The pedal has a dedicated Bass-input
2) It's digital (that is my understanding anyway), so higher supply voltage is NOT recommended.
Having a bass input won't stop you from overloading the circuit. Besides, a bass input is quite different to having a low frequency blend - which is what I actually suggested.

The digital portions of the circuit would be well protected and regulated - it's likely that it's the analogue portions that are being overloaded, and these might benefit from a higher supply.

All moot points given the OP seems to have given up on this pedal!

The EBS BassIQ is bloody awesome, IMHO.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:12 PM
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Having a bass input won't stop you from overloading the circuit. Besides, a bass input is quite different to having a low frequency blend - which is what I actually suggested.

The digital portions of the circuit would be well protected and regulated - it's likely that it's the analogue portions that are being overloaded, and these might benefit from a higher supply.

All moot points given the OP seems to have given up on this pedal!

The EBS BassIQ is bloody awesome, IMHO.
I stand corrected. This guy is right.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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I say go with an Envelope filter and sell the AW3. You really have more options with the filter. The EBS BassIQ does rock as the speak_onion stated but EBA stuff (imo) is kinda pricey. I would suggest a Q-Tron+ awesome piece gear right there.
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