Boss GT-10B - Page 52

odineye · #**1021** 01-13-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamixoye

Can anybody tell me about using an external footswitch with the GT-10B? Digitech FS-3X's were on clearance at Guitar Center and I picked up two---I knew they definitely worked with my Pitchfactor but wasn't sure about the GT-10B. I tried it out and it doesn't seem to work. I don't know a ton about the underlying electronics so forgive my ignorance. Is the GT-10B ONLY compatible with Boss FS5/FS6? Or are there any other options, like a Behringer knock-off or something?

I took a quick look at the FS-3X, and from what little information I could see, I'd have to say it wont work.

As far as options, I built my own for about $7 in parts and 20 minutes of my time. An enclosure, 2 momentary switches, a 1/4" TRS female jack, a couple pieces of wire and a 1/4" stereo cable are all it takes.

Here's a link to a page with a schematic if you're interested.
http://www.nandnor.net/?p=53

Adamixoye · #**1022** 01-13-2013, 03:03 PM

That's pretty cool, I would love to do that but it's been a looooooong time since I messed around with any electronics.

As I understand it, though, these would only work as "momentary" switches, not latching switches? The FS-6 does both, and the Boss can assign both types of functions as well.

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Originally Posted by odineye

I took a quick look at the FS-3X, and from what little information I could see, I'd have to say it wont work.

As far as options, I built my own for about $7 in parts and 20 minutes of my time. An enclosure, 2 momentary switches, a 1/4" TRS female jack, a couple pieces of wire and a 1/4" stereo cable are all it takes.

Here's a link to a page with a schematic if you're interested.
http://www.nandnor.net/?p=53

odineye · #**1023** 01-13-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamixoye

That's pretty cool, I would love to do that but it's been a looooooong time since I messed around with any electronics.

As I understand it, though, these would only work as "momentary" switches, not latching switches? The FS-6 does both, and the Boss can assign both types of functions as well.

Uhhmmmm... Sheesh... you're going to make me go back through the manual aren't you...

Yes, they do only work as momentary switches but, I can't think of any way the GT-10b utilizes a latching switch.

Adamixoye · #**1024** 01-13-2013, 03:20 PM

I may not totally understand the difference between latching and non-latching. When you are setting the CTL1 and CTL2 pedals (or CTL3/4 when using an extension) you have the option of momentary vs. toggle. I guess these both can be accomplished by momentary switches, as long as it is set correctly on the GT-10B?

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Originally Posted by odineye

Uhhmmmm... Sheesh... you're going to make me go back through the manual aren't you...

Yes, they do only work as momentary switches but, I can't think of any way the GT-10b utilizes a latching switch.

odineye · #**1025** 01-13-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamixoye

I may not totally understand the difference between latching and non-latching. When you are setting the CTL1 and CTL2 pedals (or CTL3/4 when using an extension) you have the option of momentary vs. toggle. I guess these both can be accomplished by momentary switches, as long as it is set correctly on the GT-10B?

Oooooohhh, I see where you're going. Yes, momentary and toggle functions are both controlled by non latching switches. Sorry if I confused the terminology for you there.

Adamixoye · #**1026** 01-13-2013, 06:23 PM

Okay; that makes sense. What is a latching pedal for then?

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Originally Posted by odineye

Oooooohhh, I see where you're going. Yes, momentary and toggle functions are both controlled by non latching switches. Sorry if I confused the terminology for you there.

gumtownbassman · #**1027** 01-13-2013, 09:07 PM

If you use a latching pedal, don't use the "toggle" option for the pedal assign, or you end up with a 'double toggle' situation, where you have to hit the pedal twice for a toggle action.
A latching/toggling pedal will work fine, but does limit your use to toggle actions only (if that's fine by you).

Adamixoye · #**1028** 01-13-2013, 09:25 PM

So before I return it can someone explain to me why the Digitech FS3X doesn't work? It's a TRS cable, it seems like 2 of the three switches should function.

dug dog · #**1029** 01-13-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by odineye

Here's a link to a page with a schematic if you're interested.
http://www.nandnor.net/?p=53

Very much so. Gracias.

gumtownbassman · #**1030** 01-14-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Adamixoye

So before I return it can someone explain to me why the Digitech FS3X doesn't work? It's a TRS cable, it seems like 2 of the three switches should function.

It might work on two buttons, why not try it first.

Here is the schematic of that pedal.

Adamixoye · #**1031** 01-15-2013, 02:19 PM

I did try, I just wasn't sure if I had set it up on the GT-10B settings properly. I will try again.

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Originally Posted by gumtownbassman

It might work on two buttons, why not try it first.

Here is the schematic of that pedal.

Adamixoye · #**1032** 01-16-2013, 01:22 PM

Important dpdate: I was programming the GT-10B wrong. I forgot to turn the "control" assignments "on." The Digitech switch DOES work. Switch 1-->CTL3, Switch 2-->CTL4, Switch 3-->CTL3+4.

Works with both momentary and toggle. Actually, that third switch opens up some very interesting options. If you have effects you want to sometimes be connected, sometimes not---there you go.

The primary caveat is I haven't fully tested it for tap tempo. However, I know this switch works with tap tempo for a Pitchfactor, so I don't see why it wouldn't.

Edit to add: just tested tap tempo. Works.

odineye · #**1033** 01-16-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamixoye

Important dpdate: I was programming the GT-10B wrong. I forgot to turn the "control" assignments "on." The Digitech switch DOES work. Switch 1-->CTL3, Switch 2-->CTL4, Switch 3-->CTL3+4.

Works with both momentary and toggle. Actually, that third switch opens up some very interesting options. If you have effects you want to sometimes be connected, sometimes not---there you go.

The primary caveat is I haven't fully tested it for tap tempo. However, I know this switch works with tap tempo for a Pitchfactor, so I don't see why it wouldn't.

Edit to add: just tested tap tempo. Works.

Well, of course it makes perfect sense... Now that *you've* done it and I look back at the schematic.

And yeah, it does add some neat possibilities.

Hmmmm... Just add a switch and a couple of diodes eh? Hmmmm...

Thanks for the update.

Adamixoye · #**1034** 01-16-2013, 02:53 PM

Also, I set CTL3 to momentary and and CTL4 to toggle, and by pressing switch 3 on the Digitech, you can do an interesting cycling through various combinations.

This is going to be fun.

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Originally Posted by odineye

Well, of course it makes perfect sense... Now that *you've* done it and I look back at the schematic.

And yeah, it does add some neat possibilities.

Hmmmm... Just add a switch and a couple of diodes eh? Hmmmm...

Thanks for the update.

Ras Thavis · #**1035** 03-29-2013, 09:48 AM

Hey folks forgive the ham handed insertion....however I have a question and guidance request.

I recently purchased a GT-10B, and am going to do some studio sessions in a few days.

Question:
Does anybody have the time to explain how I may be able to get a geddy lee-ish tone, or perhaps even a Squire-esq tone.

The fellas I will be working with are huge prog endorsing sound lovers.

Additional information:
I will not be bringing an amp...just the Boss. So I will interface the peddle board with the studio.

I will be playing a F/S Jazz active bass. I got a chance to listen to they're scratch demos and I am hearing the bass lines (key board) written...but sounds a lot like Geddy to me...post moving pictures.

Help please!

TheBogart · #**1036** 03-29-2013, 11:03 AM

The GT-10B has a lot of sounds inside. Do you try any to see what is close to the sound you have In your head?

Ras Thavis · #**1037** 03-29-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBogart

The GT-10B has a lot of sounds inside. Do you try any to see what is close to the sound you have In your head?

Indeed I did...close was the SVT 8-10 one...sounds good through speakers and all...but a just misses...also id like to create one that is closer on a user channel...thought perhaps some body with greater effects experience (especially on the Gt -10B) could show the way.

Thank you for responding though (thebogart)
Cheers !

TheBogart · #**1038** 03-29-2013, 11:30 AM

Geddy Lee has a lot of tones In his Bass sounds. Give me a song and i will see what i can doo.

Ras Thavis · #**1039** 03-29-2013, 11:54 AM

They're stuff sounds like combinations of the following :

New world Man
Different Strings
Countdown

Sprinkling of:
Losing It

In there as well...

Man I sure do appreciate your taking the time to even try and help!

TheBogart · #**1040** 03-29-2013, 12:18 PM

Is this the sound you are looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPAqEQ1_ctQ

You can use the SVT simulation, with 8x10 or 4x10. A compressor. And in the EQ, give the treble a boost, and cut a little from the bass side!