boss oc-3 + big muff pi

LoveLostShuffle · #1 04-17-2011, 09:00 AM

I am looking to get a good sound using both the oc-3 and the big muff pi but still wanting all the notes to come through clear. Pretty much i dont want to sound like jumbled noise using both which has been hapening a lot. Any sugestions? Thanks!

rratajski · #2 04-17-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveLostShuffle

I am looking to get a good sound using both the oc-3 and the big muff pi but still wanting all the notes to come through clear. Pretty much i dont want to sound like jumbled noise using both which has been hapening a lot. Any sugestions? Thanks!

Pull back your sustain a tad and dial up your tone on the muff.
On the oc-3, what setting are you on?
Are you chording? What's the lowest note that you're playing with the oc-3 on?

CHILDISHGAMBINO · #3 04-17-2011, 09:06 AM

What order are they plugged in? If you have the Muff first the OC-3 might not like it. If that's the case try OC-3 first. If the OC-3 is first my only suggestion would be that if you have 2 pickups on yer bass then use the neck pu solo, play with a slightly lighter touch than usual, and try and be as clean as possible with your fretting hand. I have an OC-2 so I'm not sure if this will help but a lot of the guys that have the OC-3 swear by the the guitar input in poly mode on the OC-3. Hope this helped.

LoveLostShuffle · #4 04-17-2011, 09:12 AM

Well i am tuned to standard E, I have the oc-3 before the muff in the chain, as far as mode goes I am now thinking that may be my issue I have it pluged into the bass input and the mode on the overdrive as well. I havnt tried the poly mode yet but i tried it with just the octave and the muff and it was a terrible sound haha.

LoveLostShuffle · #5 04-18-2011, 11:05 AM

Can anyone else help me out with some ideas for this? Im still getting a much too distorted tone it all sounds like a muddy mess and no notes are coming through well at all

kaputsport · #6 04-18-2011, 12:34 PM

OC-2 Mode, Bass input, single notes only, and don't go below the open A string.

I use this combo all the time, and love it... But I actually have an OC-2.

LoveLostShuffle · #7 04-18-2011, 03:16 PM

See that is my issue i will be using lower notes than that because I am doing a band without a guitarist. Maybe a dfferent tuning you would reccomend? I tried your suggesion and everything just sounds muddy I can't figure out how to clear up the sound at all.

rratajski · #8 04-18-2011, 03:29 PM

Octavers don't work like that, man.
Keep your notes when the OC-3 is on above the A on the E string or the open A string.

Otherwise, it's crapping out notes. I won't get into the logistics of it, but it's just how it is!

LoveLostShuffle · #9 04-18-2011, 05:21 PM

Is there any effects you would recomend for a good distorted bass sound with a little something extra in it?

rratajski · #10 04-18-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveLostShuffle

Is there any effects you would recomend for a good distorted bass sound with a little something extra in it?

What do you mean "extra"?

CHILDISHGAMBINO · #11 04-18-2011, 06:22 PM

What kind of music are you playing? What other instruments are involved? If you are looking to fatten up your sound a little maybe a chorus or delay to thicken things up? Try Ryan's suggestion with OC-3. Octavers don't usually track well below A. If you are trying to get sub-octaves below A it starts getting silly anyway because human ears can't hear the fundamental frequencies of the notes much further below a sub-octave A. I'm sure someone can explain that better than me. I used to hate octave pedals until l actually figured out and accepted how they function now I use mine quite often. Try it in polymode, guitar input, and use the advice above for note choices. If the song you have written calls for an F on the E string just play F on the 8th fret of the A string or F on the 3rd fret of the D, if it calls for open E play E on the 7th fret of the A string, etc. Try it out and see if it works for you.

rratajski · #12 04-18-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CHILDISHGAMBINO

What kind of music are you playing? What other instruments are involved? If you are looking to fatten up your sound a little maybe a chorus or delay to thicken things up? Try Ryan's suggestion with OC-3. Octavers don't usually track well below A. If you are trying to get sub-octaves below A it starts getting silly anyway because human ears can't hear the fundamental frequencies of the notes much further below a sub-octave A. I'm sure someone can explain that better than me. I used to hate octave pedals until l actually figured out and accepted how they function now I use mine quite often. Try it in polymode, guitar input, and use the advice above for note choices. If the song you have written calls for an F on the E string just play F on the 8th fret of the A string or F on the 3rd fret of the D, if it calls for open E play E on the 7th fret of the A string, etc. Try it out and see if it works for you.

Yup! Octavers help you learn note placement and better finger placement.

OP- report back please!

rr5025 · #13 04-18-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kaputsport

OC-2 Mode, Bass input, single notes only, and don't go below the open A string.

I use this combo all the time, and love it... But I actually have an OC-2.

I use this all the time as well. I really like running the OC-2 into my Muff (mind out of the gutter) then blending all that with RAT and clean.

LoveLostShuffle · #14 04-18-2011, 08:24 PM

Like a good distortion with another effect that would work with it well

CHILDISHGAMBINO · #15 04-18-2011, 10:00 PM

See post number 11. You need to give more information. A lot of effects work well with distortion. Your OC-3 works well with distortion. You are either setting it up incorrectly or you're expecting it to do something that it doesn't. Maybe you just don't like the sound of octavers? Either way please answer some of the questions in post number 11. Nobody can really help you out if they don't know what exactly it is you are trying to achieve. Asking what is a good effect with distortion is like asking what is a good kind of jam with peanut butter.

NOISE! · #16 04-18-2011, 10:53 PM

Ignore everything said thus far...

Run the muff into the octave, turn the volume and sustain all the way up, turn the tone all the way to bass, set octave on OC-2, see what happens... it'll be more fun this way

LoveLostShuffle · #17 04-18-2011, 10:59 PM

As far as the type of music I am playing it is fast, thrashy, punk rock. The other instruments involoved are drums and vocals. I actually love the sound of octavers however maybe I am using it wrong. I am fairly new to pedals and effects. Sorry for not telling you too much info I.didn't see that post over there. Anyway well that is about it I just want a way for the oc-3 and the big muff to work well together.

Derelict78 · #18 04-19-2011, 12:01 AM

Well thats your problem playing fast with an oc-2 into muff
slow it down a little with the oc big fat beefyness

rratajski · #19 04-19-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Derelict78

Well thats your problem playing fast with an oc-2 into muff
slow it down a little with the oc big fat beefyness

Right! Fast and octavers don't mix on bass.
Have you tried chording. I literally chord in every song now and have ditched octaving.

Green Mind · #20 04-19-2011, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveLostShuffle

See that is my issue i will be using lower notes than that because I am doing a band without a guitarist. Maybe a dfferent tuning you would reccomend? I tried your suggesion and everything just sounds muddy I can't figure out how to clear up the sound at all.

The way I'm reading it is perhaps he is confused with the purpose of down octavers like the OC-3 and is really aiming for the sound of an up octaver, something like the Akai Unibass or the Digitech Whammy to fill in the upper register as well.