Boss SYB5 or Behringer BSY600

aaronhutson · #1 10-07-2011, 01:11 PM

Im wanting to try to play with some dubstep on bass. Just to mess around with. I know theres alot of behringer hate, but im just wanting to mostly just play around. Is the bsy600 decent enough to play with or should i just go ahead and get the boss?

Any input is welcome.

Toastfuzz · #2 10-07-2011, 01:13 PM

Pretty sure the Boss doesn't really come alive until you plug an expression pedal into it. Dunno about the Behr

karstetterpj · #3 10-07-2011, 01:55 PM

I've had the SYB 5 for a couple years and JUST NOW got it to start sounding really good. The trick is that you absolutely need a compressor before it so it tracks accurately, and a limiter after it because the volume spikes that the pedal produces are ridiculous. Toastfuzz is correct, the expression pedal is what turns this thing into a usable pedal. It ends up sounding like a really cool 'space wah' type thing. It kinda sucks that it takes so many other extraneous items for the pedal to come alive but once all the pieces are in place, it sounds really unique.

wolffman · #4 10-07-2011, 02:33 PM

IMO go with the behringer, it sounds great and is much less expensive. Some say it sounds/tracks better I can’t comment as I only had the behringer and liked it plenty. It also can be set with no filter sweep- the boss can not. I’ve since sold it and regret the sale, will be buying another. Some will tell you the build quality is horrible- I never had a problem and gigged with it for a year and a half. I would say try and be as gentle as possible, but if your not I didn’t have a problem.

Colonel Monk · #5 10-07-2011, 03:11 PM

Yeah have the BOSS dunno if I'd try to do the dubstep thing with it. It could be useful in a chain to do dubstep but IMO the LFO controlled settings (I think there's only two) won't do it alone.

Add in some fuzz and a filter with LFO after and you might have something.

I'd comb this forum for everything dubstep in the past 6 months and you'll see what kind of sig chains dudes are putting together to make that sound.

CM

Swimming Bird · #6 10-08-2011, 09:00 AM

The SYB5/BSY600 + expression pedal works really well for a poor man's dubstep sound. Pretty limited to just the one flavor of wobble once you get it figured out, but it works.

rratajski · #7 10-08-2011, 09:04 AM

I will say this about the bsy600: it has scary lows, even with my comp/limiter running!

bigchiefbc · #8 10-08-2011, 10:48 AM

I've owned both and the Behringer is the one I use on my board. They're basically identical except that if you turn the decay knob all the way up on the Behringer, it disables the filter sweep. The Boss doesn't do this. That may not be a big deal for everyone, but it's huge to me. With that functionality, the Behringer just turns into a straight oscillator that can give me square, square octave down, saw, saw octave down, pulse, and PWM, all with no filter. That is huge on a modular-type board.

Lars_Vegas · #9 10-09-2011, 02:36 AM

I had horrible experiences with 2 bsy-600. Both had the same problem: It was pure luck if the footswitch engaged or disengaged the effect, which of course is a total no-go!! I do not know the boss one, but the sounds of the behringer we're ok. But I also found it too limited without an expression pedal. I just got my money back after the second one had the same problem as the first one...

BritPicker · #10 10-09-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lars_Vegas

I had horrible experiences with 2 bsy-600. Both had the same problem: It was pure luck if the footswitch engaged or disengaged the effect, which of course is a total no-go!! I do not know the boss one, but the sounds of the behringer we're ok. But I also found it too limited without an expression pedal. I just got my money back after the second one had the same problem as the first one...

I'm sorry to say I had the same problem with the footswitch being very unreliable. We tried all of them that the shop had - and they all had the same problem. That was unfortunate as I really liked the unit.

I have other Behringer gear, and so does the guitarist in my band, and it has never given me or him a problem. For the money I think they can't be beaten.

Maybe I'll take a look at the BSY600 again in the future. I'm hoping that it was just a problem with a particular batch of pedals. I think the expression pedal opens up the possibilities greatly.

arginator · #11 10-09-2011, 07:36 PM

Hmm...there must have been a bad batch of those bsy600s. Mine has a bad switch too. It works but I have to stomp on it hard to get it to turn off. Not good for a plastic pedal. Too bad since it sounds good.

sillyfabe · #12 10-09-2011, 07:37 PM

BSY-600 FTW. Had a Boss SYB-05 for a while and loved it but the BSY-600 is everything (like bigchiefbc said) and more! WELL WORTH IT!

Slackerprince · #13 10-09-2011, 07:49 PM

If you're looking for a cheap bass synth, the Digitech Bass Synth Wah is great and easy to find used for a good price.
Somewhat on topic, I'd like to try the Boss through a drum machine. Saw it on YouTube and it sounded cool.
Good luck.

S

aaronhutson · #14 10-10-2011, 10:41 PM

So iim hearing that the behringer is the best for the money.. or maybe even overall? Then i think thats what i'll gp with.

Now about an expression pedal.. Are they all the same? So i could buy a 30$ instead of a 90$ one?

Lars_Vegas · #15 10-11-2011, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronhutson

So iim hearing that the behringer is the best for the money.. or maybe even overall? Then i think thats what i'll gp with.

Now about an expression pedal.. Are they all the same? So i could buy a 30$ instead of a 90$ one?

depends on what you're looking for and how sturdy you want it to be!
I do not trust expression or wah pedals only made of plastic... but that is just me...

wolffman · #16 10-11-2011, 07:26 AM

The Moog Ep-2 is tried and true. I know tons of touring bands that use them on their boards with no problem. Paired with the bsy600 I like the behringer expression pedal better than the ep-2. I also have the Boss FV500h but it's bigger, bulkier, and does the same exact thing as the others.