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01-21-2009, 07:40 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | Built a Ring Stinger (ring modulator) - pic and soundclips
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I just finished this up: 
It's a clone of the Lovetone Ring Stinger, one of the craziest effects ever. It's a ring modulator - the old design using diodes, rather than the more modern version that uses a modulator chip. It's got an LFO that modulates the VCO, a carrier input, inputs to control various parameters with modular synths or expression pedals, etc. It's sort of like the Moog's psychotic older brother.
Clips: Each one is around 1-2mb, 1-2 minutes long. This thing is capable of so many sounds that I could make hours of clips, but I tried to cover a lot in these files. The first one starts with "regular" RM and from there they get weirder. In some of the clips, I am using my bass's sustainer (like a built-in ebow) to sustain a note while I twiddle knobs. stinger 1.mp3 stinger 2.mp3 stinger 3n.mp3 stinger 4.mp3 stinger 5.mp3 stinger 6.mp3 stinger 7.mp3 stinger 8.mp3 stinger 9.mp3 stinger 10.mp3 |
01-21-2009, 07:41 PM
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Lead Designer: Redline Electronics | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Illinois | | Very nice build! 
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01-21-2009, 07:44 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | Good job! I'm embarrassed to say my build of it never made it into a housing, it's been sitting in my "to finish" box for about two years already. |
01-21-2009, 07:48 PM
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01-21-2009, 08:15 PM
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Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago - LA | | | Nice!!!
Is that a hammond chassis?
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01-21-2009, 08:34 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | Not Hammond, made by "LMB". 'Twas the only slope-front box I could find that could fit the huge PCB.
Bongo, did you use PC-mounted pots? I can't find the Bourns pots that Lovetone used for less than like 6 bucks apiece. Solder tab pots make for way more wiring, of course, but $6 x 7 pots is just way too much.
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01-21-2009, 08:38 PM
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Lead Designer: Redline Electronics | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Illinois | | Quote:
Originally Posted by conical johnson  Not Hammond, made by "LMB". 'Twas the only slope-front box I could find that could fit the huge PCB.
Bongo, did you use PC-mounted pots? I can't find the Bourns pots that Lovetone used for less than like 6 bucks apiece. Solder tab pots make for way more wiring, of course, but $6 x pots is just way too much. | Haha, yeah I've had to deal with that. As much as I would like the surface mount pots, thats just to much.
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01-21-2009, 08:38 PM
|  | I'm a tumbler, born under punches | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California | | | Badass.
Sounds like I remember the Ring Stinger, which is to say psychotic, sickening and twisted - in all the right ways.
As I've said, my electronics knowledge is pretty limited, but I was always told that of the Lovetone pedals this one was the most complex.
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01-21-2009, 08:52 PM
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Non-Stereotypical GC Sales/Training Manager...No more selling :( | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NY | | | Now that's a robot effect! Good work!
(That is some crazy high action on your bass btw ;]) |
01-21-2009, 09:03 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronicle
(That is some crazy high action on your bass btw ;])
| Actually, my bass is an 8-string (4x2) and I have taken the octave strings off. They are strung above the bass strings, so when I take them off, the E string is farther away from the edge of the neck than it would be on a 4. I would have thought that the frets would have received more attention, though... |
01-21-2009, 09:22 PM
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01-21-2009, 09:28 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBigO Badass.
Sounds like I remember the Ring Stinger, which is to say psychotic, sickening and twisted - in all the right ways.
As I've said, my electronics knowledge is pretty limited, but I was always told that of the Lovetone pedals this one was the most complex.
Great job. | Yeah, this is a huge and very complex effect. The funny thing is that I have never built a simple effect like the usual Big Muffs and Tube Screamers, because I never had any interest in owning those pedals, so I pretty much jumped right into the insane stuff. I am an extremely calm person (sometimes to my detriment) but I will go ahead and admit that this thing sent me into a fury once or twice while I was working on it. |
01-21-2009, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by whoatherechunk how much did the build cost? | I had to buy from several places so I don't know the total, but it was very expensive for an effect pedal, because I had to get a PCB etched (as I said above, the main PCB is very large, and there's a second smaller board, so it was much more spendy than usual), plus the extra large box, expensive rotary switches, something like 150 components, 3 stomps, 6 jacks... It was an expensive build, but cheaper than the $1000 people want on ebay. |
01-21-2009, 10:07 PM
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Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago - LA | | | you can average around 75 to 120 for the build depending on the parts used.
But I have a slew of parts in boxes so I might be off... =/
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01-21-2009, 10:11 PM
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EXAR pedals rep for North & Central America | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | I seem to recall paying about $150, but then that includes shipping from different vendors, some components purchased in quantities of 10 or more, and a frankly overpriced housing box. |
01-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago - LA | | | Yeah..I raid dead and not-worth it pedals, and amps and part them out.
Stinkin pack-rat am I.
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01-21-2009, 10:32 PM
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Owner, Iron Ether Electronics | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA US | | | I think that's about right. Compared with most effects, which can be made for about $30-$40, the Ring Stinger is pretty rough, but ultimately worth it. |
01-21-2009, 10:53 PM
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Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago - LA | | | well..now I gotta build one..
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01-21-2009, 11:03 PM
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spot on!
but awesome build!!!
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01-22-2009, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by conical johnson I would have thought that the frets would have received more attention, though... | um... so yeah. what's up with that? is it some kind of microtonal bass?
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