BYOC Envelope Filter (DOD440 clone): just arrived

[meekee73_2008]

here in my hands: i'm really diggin'it

just looking forward to hear impressions of others owners round here..my only complaint about it is that it seems a little too "subtle" for my tastes.

am i a wrong?

Michele

[UnDoNe]

I built one of these a while back. It is indeed subtle, but gets some nice quack when you dig in. Mine was modded for bass and sounded almost exactly like a boomstick bottom feeder....which was nice.

[meekee73_2008]

Originally Posted by UnDoNe

I built one of these a while back. It is indeed subtle, but gets some nice quack when you dig in. Mine was modded for bass and sounded almost exactly like a boomstick bottom feeder....which was nice.

i bought it pre-assembled and i pointed out that it would have been used on bass.

maybe i need a little more tweaking time

Michele

[Marill]

I have one which wasn't modded for bass, and no matter what I did I just couldn't get it to trigger.

I brought it down for someone to help me modify it for bass, and now I can get it to quack, and I like the sound I hear!

[bigchiefbc]

Man, maybe I messed something up building mine, or my bass has a way hotter signal that I thought, because mine quacks away like crazy and I can't get it to NOT fully trigger no matter how softly I play. I find it so weird that everyone here seems to say its a subtle filter, and I wish there was a way to tame mine down a lot.

[skulletwhip]

A friend of mine built one, it was great on passives, and bad on actives.

[bigchiefbc]

Originally Posted by skulletwhip

A friend of mine built one, it was great on passives, and bad on actives.

I wonder if that's the problem. I only have actives, no passive basses to try it with. Here's a question for the DIY'ers out there: is there any sort of mod I can do or component value I can change to deaden the sensitivity on this thing a bit? No matter where the drive (sensitivity) knob is, this thing is opening all the way up, regardless of how hard I hit the note. I want more of a 'bwow" sound, rather than a Q-tron-like 'bwack'

[TrevorOfDoom]

i like mine, but it's also the first filter i've ever used, so i'm pretty sure i just don't know any better

[shinobi]

i have one, modded for bass, its pretty decent but i find it a little too subtle

[dhomer]

Found this thread a couple hours ago, and it definitely piqued my interest. Done a little searching, and it appears if the pedal ain't what its quacked up to be, the BYOC forum has threads on modifications. Seeing that I'm one who prefers to build my gear whenever possible, I've seen enough to make plans to buy a kit..

[dullsilver_mike]

I can get mine (modded for bass) to trigger fine--I have it set for really nice control in that regard, but if I crank the input too high or really lay into the strings, it not only triggers, I get some nasty break up that I don't think is part of the intended sound.

Probably something gone wrong with my assembly. When I don't lay in too hard it does sound great though--not as thick as other filters, but still a great sound.

[Marill]

Originally Posted by dullsilver_mike

I can get mine (modded for bass) to trigger fine--I have it set for really nice control in that regard, but if I crank the input too high or really lay into the strings, it not only triggers, I get some nasty break up that I don't think is part of the intended sound.

Probably something gone wrong with my assembly. When I don't lay in too hard it does sound great though--not as thick as other filters, but still a great sound.

mine is also modded for bass, and only after modding then i can get it to trigger properly.

but like yours, i do get the breakup sound if I dig in too hard.

[MAMMOTHvolume]

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

Man, maybe I messed something up building mine, or my bass has a way hotter signal that I thought, because mine quacks away like crazy and I can't get it to NOT fully trigger no matter how softly I play. I find it so weird that everyone here seems to say its a subtle filter, and I wish there was a way to tame mine down a lot.

can't remember what i did to mine but mine isn't subtle but isn't to OTT i still need to work out how i can make it do a low pass rather than a high pass though.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by MAMMOTHvolume

can't remember what i did to mine but mine isn't subtle but isn't to OTT i still need to work out how i can make it do a low pass rather than a high pass though.

I haven't looked at the schematic but it could be as easy as swapping a resistor and capacitor to make it go form high pass to low pass (if it uses a simple RC filter).

[bigchiefbc]

Here's the schem:

[MAMMOTHvolume]

Originally Posted by bigchiefbc

Here's the schem:

i increased r8 to a 470k (more gain)
c1 and c5 to .1 for more low end
c2 and c4 to .1 for a deeper envelope (try out 1u for some extreme lows)
changed r13 to 1k to i think

might try swapping c3 and r9 around to see what it does i'm not sure it'd make it turn into a low pass though unfortunatly.

[fightthepower]

Did you change it to a highpass? Or is the 440 a highpass+blend or something?

[rpatter]

Mine is modded for bass and breaks up too. I've gotten used to it though. I love that pedal!

Ralf

Originally Posted by Marill

mine is also modded for bass, and only after modding then i can get it to trigger properly.

but like yours, i do get the breakup sound if I dig in too hard.

[deepestend]

Anyone got one they want to sell or trade?