Bypass loop?

[prsbass]

I know it's been discussed here and I did a search but I couldn't really find what I was looking for. I basically want to be able to Bypass the whole pedal board with one pedal. I found a lot of options but couldn't really tell one from another as far as quality goes.
I don't want to cut corners on this pedal and I'm OK with spending $200+ if there's a pedal that validates that kind of price.

I was hoping one of yut guys had done comparisons on Bypass loops and had some idea of which one is built using the best components for the best bypass.
In other words which is the best?

[johans]

hmm

depending on your effects but you sounded like you need only 1 loop pass..

the most common and well-priced items are from

looper.com
or
loop-master.com (brian)

both are affordable .. and no, its not $200 =)

[prsbass]

Thanks
I'm in the process of putting together a pedal board now and have lots of experimenting to do before I find what I really want. I was thinking that further down the road when I have things dialed in more I could use Bypass loops for pedal combinations but for now it's just so I can use it live in clubs where if something buzzes a little it will be amplified by the house gear.
I plan to use all insulated power supplies. I also want the loop if something goes south and can bypass it all and figure it out later.

[Dragonlord]

Here's what you're looking for:
http://www.loop-master.com/product_i...roducts_id=119
They also have a version with a led for 10 bucks more.
Personally, I had a true bypass strip made with 4 loops with blend and a master bypass. I'm waiting for it to arrive soon... I will have each of my basic sounds in the loops (overdrive, distortion, fuzz and bass synth) and a master bypass in case I want to combine them.

[Jazz Ad]

Forget Loop Master and all their twins off eBay.
If you have a decent budget you want to go with Lehle.

Switching and signal are routed through separate circuits, the electronic switch is really smooth and the box is undestructible.

[prsbass]

Is the Lehle really worth the extra cash?
I was hoping to find a local dealer so I could try it out but I don't think anyone around here carries them anymore.

[Mingus Addict]

+12 for little lehle. simply the best for bypass pedals. you should be able to find one new for about $100.

[prsbass]

I can only find them for $159. A local music store said they had a price increase recently so they quit carrying them. Ah well it's only money I'll make more..........

[Jazz Ad]

Well you stated that you had the cash for the best so I gave you the best.
Little Lehle for $120
There are many cheaper alternatives.

[prsbass]

I don't mind spending the cash if it's worth the extra but if it's just the same old thing with a higher price tag I'd rather save a little.

As far as the specs go the only difference between the Loop-master and Lehle is some gold plating and $100. Unless I'm missing something.

Oh and that link is to an old web page, that place no longer carries the Lehle products.
http://www.synergyguitars.com/Lehle-Amp-Switchers.htm

[JanusZarate]

Originally Posted by prsbass

As far as the specs go the only difference between the Loop-master and Lehle is some gold plating and $100. Unless I'm missing something.

You're missing plenty!

The Lehle loop pedals use a relay-based switching setup and some unusual-looking switches. Overall, this design is supposed to be dead-silent in terms of "pops" and "clicks". If I'm not mistaken, the design not only allows for a switch that won't touch your tone when switched on/off, but is also physically quieter and softer.

I've worked with relay-based switches on effects pedals before, and they are indeed silent. On the other hand, the 3PDT switches used in your typical true bypass (where the jacks are hardwired to the 3PDT switch) can sometimes introduce "pops" and "clicks" into the signal when switched on and off. It's a natural consequence of the design.

In the end, both can do the same jobs, but Lehle avoids the pop/click problems of the traditional switch. It's like Boss' FET switching without the buffer circuit.

EDIT: Looks like Lehle has developed stuff most other builders don't do... like their programmable loop pedal! It has a lot of features I've never seen in a loop pedal.

[prsbass]

Hey thanks for pointing that out MysticBoo. I read all that stuff but I wasn't sure if it really worked as good as they claim.
I'm new to pedals so I'm still trying to figure things out a little.

[JanusZarate]

No problem! Glad to be of help.

As you can figure, though, the price is what scares most of us from not buying Lehle pedals.

My true-bypass and buffered pedals are good enough for me.

[high mileage]

I'm just using a standard single loop pedal, but had it made by Chuck's Tone Garage with the in and out on the right side. I put the pedal on the right upper corner of the board, and the jacks to hook up the bass and amp are right there on the outside.

[pickles]

If you use distortion, I strongly suggest you get at least one loop that allows you to blend the wet/dry signals.

And for that, I'd recommend Barge Concepts.

Also, buffers on the loops when engaged can be very helpful in keeping your tone healthy when your effects are switched in (and of course you'll want complete true bypass when they are not).

[prsbass]

The VFB-2 is an attractive pedal but I also like the Lehle D.Loop SGoS.

Tough decision.

[prsbass]

Ordered the Lehle D.Loop SGoS pedal geek has them at about $100 less than anybody else. They must have old stock bought before the recent price increase.

[5stringwonder]

Anyone has any idea when the VB-Jr is coming out?