CA Builder/Modder that can do a quick job on a Bass Bone?

behndy · #1 12-21-2010, 01:27 PM

hello!

just got a Radial Bass Bone (atrociously bad name). is there anyody on here that can do a quick move on the DI and output jack? it's in a HORRIBLE, useless place. i'm going to talk to Danial Rasp about it, he's pimping out my DL4, but a quick turnaround would be better.

i'm near Berkeley, CA 94705.

thanks!

Mingus Addict · #2 12-22-2010, 11:35 AM

Yo, behndy. I don't mean to derail your thread but I figure asking this question will give it a bump anyway. You're using the basswang to drive a power amp right? I've heard it doesn't work very well for that. In fact, Radial refers to it as a "unity gain device." What has your experience been so far?

behndy · #3 12-22-2010, 11:46 AM

yahpers. Wang into Power Amp (ew). it seems to be working okay. it IS noticeably quieter than the VT Deluxxxxxer i'm coming from, but if you only plug into the Input 1 and select the Input 2 it adds a bit of gain. that, and with the Boost on (it's a very clean boos stage too) it's plenty loud as a signal going in.

i can get basically the same clean tone i liked on the VTD, and it's about half the size. i wasn't using all the extras that the bigger VTD gave me, so, if they DESIGNED IT'S OUTPUTS RIGHT i'd be super happy.

i talked to Draspinator about rehousing it and he seems into it, so i think problem solved.

fatherjohncough · #4 12-22-2010, 11:14 PM

Should've gotten a Tronographic Rusty Box, best pre amp ever.

behndy · #5 12-22-2010, 11:30 PM

i've heard so many good things about it, and i have a friend sending me theirs to try out for a bit, but i'd have to get it modded and have a DI put in it. it doesn't have one normally right?

i end up using the DI for half of my FOH shows. don't want to lose that option.

i am VERY excited about playing with ze Box of Rustiness tho.

behndy · #6 12-22-2010, 11:49 PM

i'm a bit confused about the setup on Old Rusty. the pdf says it has a balanced 1/4 out that can work as a DI, but it looks like no XLR out. i thought DI outs always had XLR outputs? am i a confused and sad beast?

also, does the boost only boost te volume of the signal? or is there a way to have it be the same volume, but with more dirty tone giving gain?

Mingus Addict · #7 12-23-2010, 12:07 AM

A DI needs to be balanced which means it needs a three conductor connection. Both XLR and TRS meet this need, but most stage snakes terminate in XLR. A TRS to XLR cable would fix this problem if the Rusty Box works as advertised.

behndy · #8 12-23-2010, 12:44 AM

GOTCHA. thanks for the breakdown!

so, would it be a simple job to have somebody change the 1/4 to an XLR out jack if it's designed to be a balanced TRS out?

rhanks!

behndy · #9 12-23-2010, 12:46 AM

oh yah, and i got to run the Bassy Wangle with my larger rig tonight for the first time. it IS a bit quieter, even with the boost engaged and turned up all the way. i like the tones i get out of it, but there are a few drawbacks and before i decide to pay to have it rehoused or modded i think i'm gonna check out a few more options, like the Box Or Unoiled Metal.

fatherjohncough · #10 12-23-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by behndy

i'm a bit confused about the setup on Old Rusty. the pdf says it has a balanced 1/4 out that can work as a DI, but it looks like no XLR out. i thought DI outs always had XLR outputs? am i a confused and sad beast?

also, does the boost only boost te volume of the signal? or is there a way to have it be the same volume, but with more dirty tone giving gain?

The boost gives you a bit of volume boost plus more dirt.
You could always just buy a TRS to XLR adaptor, i think.

behndy · #11 12-23-2010, 08:54 AM

yeah, if i like it as much as the hype makes it out to be likable, then i would probably want it modded. less cables/adapters to remember = BETTAH.

i read something about power issues with it. wassat?

fatherjohncough · #12 12-23-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by behndy

yeah, if i like it as much as the hype makes it out to be likable, then i would probably want it modded. less cables/adapters to remember = BETTAH.

i read something about power issues with it. wassat?

The power supply you gotta use is a little odd yeh, its like the old
EHX power supplys, 48v or something crazy like that. I find it to be well worth all the hasstle, especally if yr. driving a power amp, there's nothing better, excuse my fanboyism

Mingus Addict · #13 12-23-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by behndy

GOTCHA. thanks for the breakdown!

so, would it be a simple job to have somebody change the 1/4 to an XLR out jack if it's designed to be a balanced TRS out?

rhanks!

I just read the Rusty Box manual and I think I understand why they did what they did now. The "Main Out" jack is the one that's balanced. If you're using the RB as an effect you use the main out to feed the next pedal in your chain (with a regular Unbalanced TS cable). If you're using it as your main pre-amp, you use the "Line Out" to feed your power amp, and use the main out to feed a DI to the FOH (with a balanced TRS cable). The Main Out is sort of dual purpose.

If it were me I would just make a short TRS to Male XLR cable that would act as an adapter. You could make the TRS end right angle to keep things clean, and even mount the XLR end in a tiny hammond box and mount it under your board (sort of like guys who have locking 1/4" jacks on the sides of their boards). You could also just get a regular adapter, but it would stick really far out of the pedal and put a lot of strain on the jack.

I've been very interested in the Rusty Box myself but I'm curious to see how clean it can get. Every clip I've heard demonstrates the dirtiness, which I guess it excels at, but I'd like to hear what else it can do. I just sort of fell into a pretty sweet power amp (XLS2000) so I'm searching for a pre to drive it and have that be my new rig. I'm mostly leaning towards the ToneHammer, but following some of Mr. Behndy's recent threads has given me some other possible idea's.

behndy · #14 12-23-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fatherjohncough

The power supply you gotta use is a little odd yeh, its like the old
EHX power supplys, 48v or something crazy like that. I find it to be well worth all the hasstle, especally if yr. driving a power amp, there's nothing better, excuse my fanboyism

no, fanboys are good. there is a REASON they got like that. and they're usually a good source of info. unless you're talking about 360/PS3 fanboys. they just need to burned. CLEANSED WITH FIRE.

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I just read the Rusty Box manual....

yeah. i see what they're doing now. kinda the way most SansAmp is setup, just with an TRS out not a XLR.

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Originally Posted by Mingus Addict

If it were me I would just make a short TRS to Male XLR cable that would act as an adapter....

yeah. if i dig it as much as it looks.... diggable?... i'd rather just get somebody to perma-mount an XLR in the TRS's place. smaller, less things to worry about on the board... i always have 10 or so pedals on my main board, so any extra layers of complexity make me nervous. that IS a couple of very elegant solutions tho!

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Originally Posted by Mingus Addict

I've been very interested in the Rusty Box myself but I'm curious to see how clean it can get. Every clip I've heard demonstrates the dirtiness, which I guess it excels at, but I'd like to hear what else it can do. I just sort of fell into a pretty sweet power amp (XLS2000) so I'm searching for a pre to drive it and have that be my new rig. I'm mostly leaning towards the ToneHammer, but following some of Mr. Behndy's recent threads has given me some other possible idea's.

pho show. when i get my boy's to play with i'll put up some clips if you want. i also want a nice meaty clean signal and a slightly OD'd gritty signal to call on. Rusted Square Container looks like it miggt be the BIDNESS.