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02-10-2013, 01:48 PM
| | | | Sure. Then when we're done doing that, we can "standardise" everything else. Same electronics in all guitars, same scale lengths for all guitars, one option for string gauges, etc. There's a fine line between "standardisation" and "nanny state", IMO. |
02-10-2013, 01:54 PM
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Endorsed Artist: Myco Pedals | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lake Charles, La | | | It began as sarcasm.....but when you think about it, and with a few dance classes, it's clearly the way to go. I had a loooper.com parallel looper built that is the beginning and end of my 12 pedal chain with it's input and output on the bottom. Saves room on my board and gets more length from my instrument cables. Totally worth it. |
02-10-2013, 02:04 PM
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Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | | One of the things to consider is the PCB layout inside of these pedals. Most manufacturers try to keep the pedals as small as possible. In doing so, sometimes jacks need to be moved around so as not to have a frenzy of bulky, unnecessary wires inside the pedal.
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02-10-2013, 02:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Whistle88 "nanny state" | Uhm... Don't say that...
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02-10-2013, 05:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rhode Island, USA | | | The reason why they usually have to put the power jack on the side of those small MXR-sized boxes is that there's not really enough room to put it up top with the knobs up near the top as well. There's only so much room inside those small enclosures, and the power jack, input jacks, knobs and stomp switch all take up interior volume, and we haven't even started talking about the actual circuit board yet.
I know that there is a contingent here that think that having both the 1/4" and the power jacks all up top is always best, but honestly, I hate pedals like that. I use those GLS pancake jacks for my board, and they are shallow but wide. Between then and the fact that all of my power cables have right angle ends, and there simply isn't room to plug everything in on those pedals.
Bottom line, we all have different things we like for what works on our board, and I'm glad there isn't a 100% standard that everyone follows. Whether it works best layout-wise for my board is yet another point on the decision tree for whether I like a pedal or not. |
02-10-2013, 05:36 PM
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Stompbox designer/builder for 3Leaf Audio & Darkglass Electronics | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle | | | The few standards we have are bad standards anyway. Center-negative plugs are such a stupid idea but we're stuck with them because that's what people have always done. |
02-10-2013, 05:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Spencer! The few standards we have are bad standards anyway. Center-negative plugs are such a stupid idea but we're stuck with them because that's what people have always done. | I thought it was originally done that way by Boss because there wasn't any better way at the time to switch out a battery. It could just be an assumption on my part, since I can't imagine why you would put the non grounded part closer to the metal case. |
02-10-2013, 05:57 PM
|  | Always groove.... | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbia, Md | | | The only thing I don't like is the power jack on the side. That makes it more difficult to get pedals tightly up against each other on a pedaltrain pedal board.
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02-10-2013, 06:23 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | yeah I hate side power jacks as well ... seems to always be in the way |
02-10-2013, 06:43 PM
|  | Tone that I have. Skill? Oh, that? Well.... | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Great White North | | *SIGH*
Sorry to be a wet blanket on your soul crushing windging but here it is:
Learn to Solder, not hard trust me, buy the parts needed out of any electronics supply store for pennies on the dollar, get a box, copy the circuit, and build your own damned pedals and then you can put the jacks/plugs/connectors and the odd assorted house plant anywhere YOU want them.
Problem solved 
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02-10-2013, 10:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Indy, IN | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ZombieSpacebat All I would ask for is for power inputs to all be top mounted. | Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersnyder The only thing I don't like is the power jack on the side. That makes it more difficult to get pedals tightly up against each other on a pedaltrain pedal board. | I'm totally with you guys. I understand that the knobs and switches take up room at the top which may prevent a manufacturer from putting the power input up there, but a guy can dream...
Heck, I'd actually be happy(er) if the power input on the side was just a bit further away from the input jack...
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02-11-2013, 01:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Zealand | | | It's so simple, all inputs 1cm inside quadrant A, all outputs 1cm inside quadrant C. No more collisions ever and 2cm of jiggle up down and sideways.
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02-11-2013, 08:20 AM
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Endorsed Artist: Myco Pedals | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lake Charles, La | | | Give me bottom mounted jacks. Or give me death. |
02-11-2013, 08:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fredericton, NB | | | I have no problem with any of that stuff. Geez, must EVERYTHING be done for us?
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02-11-2013, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by erigod23 must EVERYTHING be done for us? | yes |
02-11-2013, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK, Essex | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk Heffalump *SIGH*
Sorry to be a wet blanket on your soul crushing windging but here it is:
Learn to Solder, not hard trust me, buy the parts needed out of any electronics supply store for pennies on the dollar, get a box, copy the circuit, and build your own damned pedals and then you can put the jacks/plugs/connectors and the odd assorted house plant anywhere YOU want them.
Problem solved | Yes problem solved, as long as it's not a digital pedal. Or do you fancy building me a Deep Impact clone?
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02-11-2013, 04:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Berkshires, Ma | | | Or you could just rehouse pedals that aren't layer out to your liking. |
02-11-2013, 06:13 PM
| | | | I guess I did.
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