Can anyone give me any information on this pedal?

dukeisdog · #1 12-25-2007, 10:30 PM

Hey guys, I'm new here, and need a little bit of help.

I've been looking at this pedal for some time now, and really like it. It seems to have good sound and such, but I need to know if it is worth ordering. I'm going out tomorrow to go see if I can test it out before I order it, so I know what it's like.

This is the pedal: http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATLPD7

Has anyone had any experiances with this pedal. It seems to get good ratings, but I want to know if I'm wasting my time going out tomorrow.

Thanks.

Zappstorius · #2 12-25-2007, 10:40 PM

I own this pedal. I dig it as a distortion pedal. It's not the most durable pedal (I'm currently on my 2nd one), but it's cheap and it does the job. I recommend it.

dukeisdog · #3 12-25-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zappstorius

I own this pedal. I dig it as a distortion pedal. It's not the most durable pedal (I'm currently on my 2nd one), but it's cheap and it does the job. I recommend it.

Alright.

Would you say that it's worth the $49.99 I'll have to pay for it, or should I get one thats more expensive. I only have $60 on me right now, and heard it is a decent pedal.

Vic Winters · #4 12-25-2007, 11:14 PM

It's a very nice pedal. It was my first single, and will remain on my board until it dies, and I replace it with another. It's been durable for me, but it does have switch issues, but I found that to be the case with a lot of the older 7 series Ibanez pedals. Definetly a good deal for the price.

JanusZarate · #5 12-25-2007, 11:19 PM

If you use the search function and type in "Phat Hed" or "Ibanez PD7", you'll find tons of information on that pedal in this forum. I think you'll quickly find that the Search Function is your best tool to use here. If it doesn't work too well, TalkBass also has a Google Search option which is more effective.

About the Phat Hed: I've never used it myself, but compared to other pedals in its price range, it seems to be one of the best; it usually gets really positive reviews from fellow TBers, which is hard to say about any overdrive pedal at that price.

Of course, I'd suggest keeping an eye out for a used one on eBay or craigslist - it'll save you some dough.

dukeisdog · #6 12-25-2007, 11:26 PM

Thanks for the help guys.

Now would you suggest buying this over a cheaper WAH pedal?

And what are some decent WAH pedals around that price range?

JanusZarate · #7 12-25-2007, 11:36 PM

Hold on one sec... a wah pedal and distortion pedal are nothing alike. Do you really know what you're looking for? The average bassist doesn't really even use wah pedals - not as often as they might use some overdrive, anyway.

I'm not saying that you should never get a wah pedal... I'm just saying that you need to think about what you're looking for.

IMO, there isn't a single wah pedal under $50.00 that works well on bass. Not one.

There is one around $70.00 that works well for bass (the current version of the Morley Power Wah), but it's a very unusual wah pedal - ideal for the Cliff Burton sound, but hardly a typical wah in sound and behavior, which is a good and bad thing. In general, though, you should expect to spend more than that if you want something that works well for bass.

It seems to me that you're not quite sure what you want yet in terms of effects... maybe you should consider investing in a decent multi-effects unit instead?

dukeisdog · #8 12-25-2007, 11:40 PM

The multi-effects seem to be quite a bit more expensive then what I'm willing to spend, though, or I would end up buying one.

I really like the way Wah pedals sound, but I don't think I would use it as much as if I bought the Ibanez PD7.

The main reason I wanted to get a Wah pedal is so I could play some of Cliffs solos, and they just don't sound right on clean bass (EX. Pulling Teeth) I can already play it, but it sounds not so good with it being clean, thats all.

I'm more into Nu-Metal then anything, so thats about all of the information I can give to you. How much is an OK multi effects pedal?

EDIT: http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMB1

I found this, but I'm not sure if it will be any good.

Racermech · #9 12-26-2007, 09:40 AM

As far as the PD7 goes, I really like mine. I would say that the pedal is a distortion pedal, and even with the overdrive switch engaged, it in no way sounds like a tube overdrive. If you are looking for overdrive, look elsewhere. For either a boost pedal, simple eq pedal, or distortion...it rocks for the price.

As far as the Cliff sound...do a search. The topic has been covered a lot and there are several great thoughts on how to get the exact sound, and also how to get a close sound economically.

Multi-effects in my opinion are a great starter, but in the end you are going to go to singles. Every guitar/bass player I have known has started out with some multi, and then switched to individuals. They are easier to tweak on the fly, give you more options as far as sound, and really there is a lot more variety.

If you are looking for a good at home practice tool, get a multi...but if you are starting to venture into effects, start picking up some pedals that get you what you really want.

SpankyPants · #10 12-26-2007, 10:32 AM

I don't have anything to say about the pedal, but I wanted to mention to the OP that I was once in a metal band called The Duke is Dead. See, that's kinda like your name. dukeisdog. Duke is Dead... dog...dead dog... dead..... dog.

That is all.

dukeisdog · #11 12-26-2007, 10:33 AM

hanks alot to the guys that posted in this thread. You've made me push more towards a multi effect pedal, instead of a single.

I'm thinking of trying out the one that I posted above, and checking it out. For $69.99 it seems to be a decent pedal, and is worth checking out. Thanks again, guys.

SpankyPants · #12 12-26-2007, 10:44 AM

Hey now! You thank everyone else, but you completely skip over my story? We're practically the same person! All of this cross-duking going on.

Anyway, about the pedal that you've selected: I would be quite hesitant to go with a plastic pedal like that. They make the exact same pedal out of aluminum (or some other metal), which is a little more expensive, but it's well worth it. After all, what's a pedal worth after you break it within a few weeks? Nothing. In music gear, you generally get what you pay for, so I'd save up a bit and go for the metal one. You'll thank me for it later.

Also, if you're going for Nu-metal, you're probably going to be using a lot of distortion and overdrive effects. Generally, multi's don't have the greatest OD's. I've never used the Zoom unit personally, but I have used multi's by Boss and Korg Toneworks, both of which left something to be desired of their OD's. Point is, it'll definitely get the job done. It's a great first effect, and it makes for a good segway into the vast, expensive world of effects. However, you'll most likely want to get a dedicated OD/distortion pedal eventually. Just something to keep in mind. I've heard nothing but good things about the Zoom, though. I can't imagine it letting you down, especially as your first unit.

OhThePeacock · #13 12-26-2007, 11:00 AM

I'd like to mention that there are soundclips in the Talkbass FX forum databass thread I posted, I think it's down to the 2nd page right now.

CincyBassMan · #14 12-26-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SpankyPants

I don't have anything to say about the pedal, but I wanted to mention to the OP that I was once in a metal band called The Duke is Dead. See, that's kinda like your name. dukeisdog. Duke is Dead... dog...dead dog... dead..... dog.

That is all.

You're killin' me...

CincyBassMan · #15 12-26-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SpankyPants

Also, if you're going for Nu-metal, you're probably going to be using a lot of distortion and overdrive effects. Generally, multi's don't have the greatest OD's. I've never used the Zoom unit personally, but I have used multi's by Boss and Korg Toneworks, both of which left something to be desired of their OD's. Point is, it'll definitely get the job done. It's a great first effect, and it makes for a good segway into the vast, expensive world of effects. However, you'll most likely want to get a dedicated OD/distortion pedal eventually. Just something to keep in mind. I've heard nothing but good things about the Zoom, though. I can't imagine it letting you down, especially as your first unit.

+1 However, I use a multi (Korg AX3B) but mostly for amp modling, tuner, and muting. I do not use the multi for a specific effect...

Vic Winters · #16 12-26-2007, 01:34 PM

The Ibanez WD7 wah can be found used for $50. Very capable and tweakable wah. I just liked my 105Q better. And FYI, the B1 doesn't have an expression pedal, so you won't have a wah, maybe auto-wah, but that's not what your looking for.

My recommendation, get the PD7. Then wait and save for a used WD7, 105Q or Morley Power Wah or PBA-2.

I have 9 effects and a true bypass looper on my board. The PD7 was my first single, the only pedal that has never been taken off the board, and is the most used effect during practices/gigs.

dukeisdog · #17 12-26-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpankyPants

Hey now! You thank everyone else, but you completely skip over my story? We're practically the same person! All of this cross-duking going on.

Anyway, about the pedal that you've selected: I would be quite hesitant to go with a plastic pedal like that. They make the exact same pedal out of aluminum (or some other metal), which is a little more expensive, but it's well worth it. After all, what's a pedal worth after you break it within a few weeks? Nothing. In music gear, you generally get what you pay for, so I'd save up a bit and go for the metal one. You'll thank me for it later.

Also, if you're going for Nu-metal, you're probably going to be using a lot of distortion and overdrive effects. Generally, multi's don't have the greatest OD's. I've never used the Zoom unit personally, but I have used multi's by Boss and Korg Toneworks, both of which left something to be desired of their OD's. Point is, it'll definitely get the job done. It's a great first effect, and it makes for a good segway into the vast, expensive world of effects. However, you'll most likely want to get a dedicated OD/distortion pedal eventually. Just something to keep in mind. I've heard nothing but good things about the Zoom, though. I can't imagine it letting you down, especially as your first unit.

Haha, thanks for the help man.

I did decide to go with the plastic coated pedal, just because I didn't have much money, and I needed a pedal. My parents agreed that once I find out how to use the one I bought fully, they'll buy me the better one that has the metal parts.