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Old 05-07-2008, 06:14 PM
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cant pick an envelope filter. help!

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okay so, i'm an effects maniac. but i cant decide on an envelope filter. obviously, i love the wet and funky sound of the original mutrons, and its obviously a bootsy-type thing im trying to get. right now, i have a boss AW-3. whenver i turn it on i loose just about all my bottom end. not good. whats a good, wet, funky filter, that wont drop any bottom end? price is not much of a concern.

i want something thats not rediculously complicated, wet and funky, but most importantly, bottom end-friendly. suggestions?
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:25 PM
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The original DOD FX25 is just what the doctor ordered.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:28 PM
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I would recommend the Q-Tron. I bought one not to long ago and it kicks ass, I've used it on big stages, small stages, you name it and the thing always will kick out mad funk slurps.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:30 PM
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The original DOD FX25 is just what the doctor ordered.
bought one new in the early 80s.... I use a Maxon AF-9 now and like it better
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Um Q-tron?

Duh.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:39 PM
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i really dont want to get the q-tron if i dont have too. i've owned 3 EHX pedals, all have died very quickly on me..my old microsynth lasted half way through one rehearsal..

but ill look into the DOD FX25..are the newer models not as good? or just differnt?
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:15 PM
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For a little more out there electronic type tone, the EBS BassIQ kills.

On the earthier side I just got a Maxon AF-9 and really dig it so far.

Nice thing about the maxon is the bypass is squaky clean.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:25 PM
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i really dont want to get the q-tron if i dont have too. i've owned 3 EHX pedals, all have died very quickly on me..my old microsynth lasted half way through one rehearsal...
i own 3 ehx pedals (smmw/h, big muff, and q-tron) there all awesome and i have never had a problem with them breaking. and i recently got the q-tron im very happy with it, it takes a while to find the right settings for bass but once u do ur set
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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I love my AF-9.

There's no low end loss, it sounds great, barely takes up space and runs off a 9 volt power supply.

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:43 PM
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I'm really liking the MXR bass auto Q and tweaktronix dynamic filter
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:53 PM
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That Boss auto wah is horrible for bass. I recently got a Q-tron from ebay and I love it. The down sweep mode can get a little LOUD if you don't keep your dynamics reigned in.
That Tweaktronix sounds good as do the old FX25 and the Bottom Feeder but I really wanted the down sweep as well as the up. I was looking at the Maxon but they're pretty expensive even used.
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+1 for the old DOD FX25s. I love mine -- I like it better than any other filter I've tried, maybe excluding an original Mutron III. The new ones are not up to snuff, but finding an old FX25 shouldn't be hard.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:28 PM
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There's a pricey FX25 on ebay right now too, battery cover and all.

I don't think I'd really say it keeps all your lows though. I think it sounds glorious, and is worth the losses until I can get one with a blend, but definately not like the AF-9 for low end retention IMO.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:30 PM
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If you can get one, you won't go wrong with a Meatball from Lovetone. I dig it because it can be so subtle sounding.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:35 PM
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You might want to try out a Pigtronix EP-1. Very fat and funky filter. I wanted something more aggressive and cutting but the EP-1 is a great pedal.

Also, it's an autowah, but the MXR Bass Auto Q can get very wet sounding.

A sleeper is the Jacques Trinity. I bought my guitar player one for his birthday and have used it a few times on bass. Very cool and gives you an envelope filter, autowah and manual wah all in one pedal. It can make some very cool noises that other pedals can't.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:36 PM
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If you can get one, you won't go wrong with a Meatball from Lovetone. I dig it because it can be so subtle sounding.
Robot Factory makes a great clone called the Meatwad and though I don't think it's out yet, I'm sure Barge Concepts "Grinder" will be a quality Meatball clone as well.
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There's a pricey FX25 on ebay right now too, battery cover and all.

I don't think I'd really say it keeps all your lows though. I think it sounds glorious, and is worth the losses until I can get one with a blend, but definately not like the AF-9 for low end retention IMO.
Woah... Totally different experience to mine then.

With my FX25 (old darker green one), I find it increases the low end dramatically. If you really attack the note, it goes high, but then heads really low. Almost 400w GK cab wreckingly low! Its like "WeooooooooHHHHHH" if that makes any sense? Im actually considering moving to something that doesn't scare the hell out of me to use through my rig!

Its an insane filter.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:48 PM
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Well I have the old 2 knob DOD fx25 filter and it's great...although there is a substantial low end loss...as I would think there would be with any filter. That's why people combine filters with fuzz, blends etc.
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