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Old 01-12-2010, 02:21 PM
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Although the device is not an effect, this seems like a reasonable place to discuss it. The Sonuus B2M Bass to midi converter is to be marketed in the U.S. by Peterson Tuners. I can't find a release date anywhere.

Of course, tracking and price will be the key to it's success.
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The G2M was meant to be pretty good but couldn't track very low. They claim this one tracks a low B, if that's true I see a new toy in my future!
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Sounds too good to be true, particularly with that tiny size.
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I'll believe it when I play it. I've wanted something like this so bad, I had even begun to research making my own. Tracking isn't necessarily the end-game, its really latency. I could write you a program to track down to 20 Hz right now, it's a matter of how LONG it takes to track the note. They claim 40ms at B0. That means they claim they can track a B0 in exactly one cycle (1000 ms / 27 Hz = ~37ms per cycle). If they truly have figured this out, I'll gladly pay whatever they're asking for it (within a certain percentage of my monthly salary).

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Although the device is not an effect, this seems like a reasonable place to discuss it. The Sonuus B2M Bass to midi converter is to be marketed in the U.S. by Peterson Tuners. I can't find a release date anywhere.

Of course, tracking and price will be the key to it's success.
I want/need one.
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This looks interesting. Hopefully it's significantly cheaper than the Roland setup with the GK-3B Pickup plus GI-20 Converter which is around ~$600.
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I assume it will have a price close to that of the G2M Guitar model. $99 - this is too good to be true.

It would be great fun to drive my my Dave Smith Instruments Mono Evolver, Creamware Prodyssey, or Minimax with whatever bass I want to use.
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Although the device is not an effect, this seems like a reasonable place to discuss it. The Sonuus B2M Bass to midi converter is to be marketed in the U.S. by Peterson Tuners. I can't find a release date anywhere.

Of course, tracking and price will be the key to it's success.
I tried the guitar version -with a guitar- and my experience is that it is indeed too good to be true. The tracking wasn't very good. Not horrible, but definately not suited for live use either. They also said it would track bends and such.. and it did, kind of. No chords as it's monophonic. Not a biggie for most bass players though.

It's ok for home studio kind of thing though if playing keyboards is out of the question and with an ebow, you can play midi strings with this pretty well.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:40 PM
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I'm VERY curious (should I say sceptical? ).
I tried everything ; Axon , Roland , VBass , all atrocious pitch to midi converters (for bass)
This small , non-GK, sub 1000$ (hope so!) , would be better ???

Very curious....... Any beta tester here ?
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I assume it will have a price close to that of the G2M Guitar model. $99 - this is too good to be true.

It would be great fun to drive my my Dave Smith Instruments Mono Evolver, Creamware Prodyssey, or Minimax with whatever bass I want to use.
Funny,

I just use the MIDI Keyboard that I bought from you to run my DSI Desktop Evolver. I just do the keys with my right hand and bass with the left. It's not ideal, but it's more in my budget.
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Indeed, it does sound good. I haven't found a release date, has anyone?
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My roommate has the Sonuus G2M (guitar version). I definitely wouldn't want to gig with it as it's pretty glitchy and doesn't give you the kind of latency you'd need to play in the pocket at all. To get any kind of usable tracking out of it, you really do have to disable the pitch bend on your synth and sequence the bends manually.

Still, he's useless on the ivories and the Sonuus was a really affordable way for him to use his guitar as a midi controller for his DAW sequencer. You can just go back over your performance, quantize it, and remove glitch notes. Definitely beats clicking and dragging on little grid squares and trying to read a piano sideways for him, and he's gotten pretty efficient at sequencing with it.

I tried it out on bass. It didn't work at all, but if the guitar version is any indication of what this will be like, it'll be really useful for non-keyboard-playing bassists who want to record synths but I highly doubt it will be a live performance solution.
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My roommate has the Sonuus G2M (guitar version). I definitely wouldn't want to gig with it as it's pretty glitchy and doesn't give you the kind of latency you'd need to play in the pocket at all. To get any kind of usable tracking out of it, you really do have to disable the pitch bend on your synth and sequence the bends manually.

Still, he's useless on the ivories and the Sonuus was a really affordable way for him to use his guitar as a midi controller for his DAW sequencer. You can just go back over your performance, quantize it, and remove glitch notes. Definitely beats clicking and dragging on little grid squares and trying to read a piano sideways for him, and he's gotten pretty efficient at sequencing with it.

I tried it out on bass. It didn't work at all, but if the guitar version is any indication of what this will be like, it'll be really useful for non-keyboard-playing bassists who want to record synths but I highly doubt it will be a live performance solution.
How well do you think it will work with notation software?
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:11 PM
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My roommate has the Sonuus G2M (guitar version). I definitely wouldn't want to gig with it as it's pretty glitchy and doesn't give you the kind of latency you'd need to play in the pocket at all. To get any kind of usable tracking out of it, you really do have to disable the pitch bend on your synth and sequence the bends manually.

Still, he's useless on the ivories and the Sonuus was a really affordable way for him to use his guitar as a midi controller for his DAW sequencer. You can just go back over your performance, quantize it, and remove glitch notes. Definitely beats clicking and dragging on little grid squares and trying to read a piano sideways for him, and he's gotten pretty efficient at sequencing with it.

I tried it out on bass. It didn't work at all, but if the guitar version is any indication of what this will be like, it'll be really useful for non-keyboard-playing bassists who want to record synths but I highly doubt it will be a live performance solution.
hmmmm.... Maybe real-time bass audio to midi conversion for only $99 is a bit much to ask?
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I think real time pitch to MIDI is a lot to ask at any price.
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