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Old 09-13-2009, 05:04 PM
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chorus or flange with synth?

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just wondering who out there uses a flange or chours along with their other octave/filter/fuzz setup to thicken the sound

do you have any soundclip examples of this?

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I have a couple samples that I'll dig up that have flange and or chorus in them. They both work nicely, though Im partial to a good flange. Ive been using a Polychorus for both flanging and chorusing, and I absolutely love it- great pedal.

The Polychorus has a relatively subtle flanger- much more subtle than something like a bf2/3 that overwhelms the signal much like a phaser does. The Polychorus flanger really shines when you feed it a dirty signal though, as it thickens it up and gives it movement, while adding to the sound and becoming a piece of the puzzle. Other heavier flangers can deeply flange a clean signal, but when you give it a dirty signal, it can easily become a bit over the top and distract from the other parts- in my experience anyway.

I have Paradox TZF on the way which is a flanger; in its advertisement they recommend giving it a dirty signal to really make it shine (and in a sense, sound like other flangers do to a clean signal), and warn that when used with clean it can be too subtle; this really opens up the versatility though because you can influence the character of the sound with different dirts without the flange becoming too intense. I should sell my Polychorus instead of some of the filters I had to let go, but its such a great pedal and noise making tool as well, that its just going to be a keeper- highly recommended though, if you can deal with the size (i have a feeling that you can bjazzman haha).

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Old 09-13-2009, 05:29 PM
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yeah im a bit lazy when it comes to recording clips and my 2x pt-pro setup is filled and contains an ehx flanger hoax.

but since i have a mini pt i'd like to mix it up from time to time

does the fx25 play nice with flangers/choruses?
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I use a Boss CE-5 and a Source Audio Tri-Mod Phaser. The CE-5 is absolutely fantastic for synth.
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just wondering who out there uses a flange or chours along with their other octave/filter/fuzz setup to thicken the sound

do you have any soundclip examples of this?

thanks
I don't have any soundclips, but using Fuzz with Flange sounds awesome. If you have a really long swoosh on the Flange, and run the Fuzz through a Whammy too (alternating Octave up/down with the exp. pedal) can sound extremely awesome for synthy bass intros.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:07 PM
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I would be down to replace my phaser with a flanger at this point but there really aren't that many flangers that look particularly appealing right now. The Barracuda seems like the best option though.
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:31 PM
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Here''s a clip with the Polychorus in chorus, then flange mode:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7578121

The pedals used in this first clip are explained in the link, but basically its me noodling with a synthy combo with the Polychorus at the end; the first 2:15 have chorus, and you can hear it changing as I manipulate the knobs and change the speed, depth, delay time, etc; at about 2:15 til the end I switch to the 'flange' mode.

Here's another of me and my buddy jamming a while back to an rc50 loopstation beat; It was about 50minutes condensed into 10, and for the first 2 minutes Im using the Pollyanna into the MF101; then at about the 2minute mark the clip changes and you can hear the now thickened/flanged signal as the Polychorus is added in flange mode. The flange is on for the rest of the clip and from a little after 3min to 4min I play with the resonance knob, giving it the pulsing swells.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7474684

The polychorus does a great job of 'adding' to the sound, without taking it over.
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ftp, that sounds most excellent! i wish there was a bill and ted emoticon

i think it really adds to the sound. now if only they made the polychorus in a small enclosure

i like how you use the pollyanna with the moog. it is very subtle. when i use it it can get pretty wild.

very cool sounds
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Definitely chorus on synth sounds. Flange and phase work well, too. Really any effect can be used. Go to town!
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How's the EBS Unichorus with synth? My CE-5 isn't going anywhere but I would like to have a flanger and maybe a less extreme chorus option.

Unrelated, but has anyone ever tried the Behringer UV 300 Vibrato on bass? I usually stay away from Behringer but this one has piqued my interest. You can choose whether the stomp switch is latching or unlatching. So if you're playing some humongous deep sub bass Octave->LPF line, you can press down on the pedal for a second of vibrato and then switch it off by taking your foot off of it. At $30, I think it's probably worth a try.
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I use the chorus on my mod factor after various synth setups and it sounds awesome! I like flanger for something less subtle but the chorus does a great job of just 'widening' the sound.
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ftp, that sounds most excellent! i wish there was a bill and ted emoticon

i think it really adds to the sound. now if only they made the polychorus in a small enclosure

i like how you use the pollyanna with the moog. it is very subtle. when i use it it can get pretty wild.

very cool sounds
Thanks Im right there with you on the Polychorus in a smaller enclosure. In fact, that would damn near be the perfect pedal for me, assuming they stayed in line with the other new XO releases/re-releases; Im already obviously a big fan of the Polychorus, and for months have been looking for a flanger with a cv or exp input that is compatible with the MP201. The Polyphase, Qballs, etc have exp inputs for the sweep, and every EHX pedal with exp inputs Ive used has been scaled perfectly for use with the MP201. If they came out with a new XO Polychorus with an exp input, I'd probably buy one immediately.

I have a Paradox TZF on the way, which has the manual input, and from what Ive read and heard its some top notch flanging, and I think it will end my flange search for a while. That said, its very expensive and doesn't have the chorus mode; it may be able to get the chorus tones though and I don't use chorus much anyway, but given the price difference and my current love of the Polychorus, it will definitely be worth looking into if they release one.

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How's the EBS Unichorus with synth? My CE-5 isn't going anywhere but I would like to have a flanger and maybe a less extreme chorus option.

Unrelated, but has anyone ever tried the Behringer UV 300 Vibrato on bass? I usually stay away from Behringer but this one has piqued my interest. You can choose whether the stomp switch is latching or unlatching. So if you're playing some humongous deep sub bass Octave->LPF line, you can press down on the pedal for a second of vibrato and then switch it off by taking your foot off of it. At $30, I think it's probably worth a try.
Im not sure about the range of its LFO, but from what Ive heard about the Unichorus, its flanger is relatively mild, and therefor it may work well in a synth chain. Im not sure what its chorus is like, but I tried the pitch modulation mode briefly and remember liking it. Im not familiar with the behringer unit, but the unlatching stomp option sounds interesting. I wouldn't buy a new behringer unit personally, but would potentially try out a few used items of theirs.
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I use my MXR flanger. I had a Phase 100 awhile back and while it sounded great, the flanger is just so much sicker.
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I use my psilocybe phaser as modulation after my BMS. With the right settings it probably would be mistaken for a chorus.
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