Chris of Muse

redangel · #1 06-15-2008, 09:58 AM

Excuse me, could someone tell me what kind of effect that chris used at the beginning of Time is running out?
its his Russian Big Muff Pi or Deep Impact sound?

dirtgroove · #2 06-15-2008, 10:22 AM

If you try searching this forum, you'll find lots of info on this topic.

Sir Edward V · #3 06-15-2008, 10:30 AM

I believe it is just the deep impact. I could be wrong though.

kaputsport · #4 06-15-2008, 10:52 AM

Wolstenholmes sound is pretty interesting.

Start with a couple of dirt pedals (spacifically the impossible to find Human Gear animato and the common EHX Big Muff Pi)

He added an Akai Deep Impact, Line 6 FM-4 and a Boss DD-3 and Boss OC-2.

Time is running out is a mixture of clean bass over a Roland JP 8000 synth.

Hysteria is a Deep Impact, mixed with the animato (presumably)

I can dupe TIRO with a woolly mammoth. Hysteria I dupe with the LS-2 line selector, running the woolly mammoth on one side and the deep impact on the other.

If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me.

Flintlock · #5 06-15-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kaputsport

Hysteria is a Deep Impact, mixed with the animato (presumably)

Apparently Hysteria is the Roland as well. He almost certainly uses the Deep Impact for Plug in Baby, and probably TIRO, but other then that its up for debate.

kevteop · #6 06-15-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flintlock

Apparently Hysteria is the Roland as well. He almost certainly uses the Deep Impact for Plug in Baby, and probably TIRO, but other then that its up for debate.

Hysteria - to me - sounds like a Muffed bass (on the intro) doubled with a synth (for the rest of the tune).

kaputsport · #7 06-15-2008, 09:27 PM

Well, one could argue that the Roland was used for Hysteria, however, the massive board in front of him on the making of videos, coupled with Toasted's first hand knowledge lead me to believe it is the DI...

I have a DI preset that sounds the part when mixed with a muff using the LS-2...

That sold me.

ikkim12 · #8 06-15-2008, 11:52 PM

i dont have any of those pedals that has been mentioned but i think it's deep impact only for time is running out. hysteria is probabaly big muff and something else. btw well i know it sounds impossible but does anyone have the sample of animato distortion? ive never heard that pedal's sound

kaputsport · #9 06-16-2008, 07:04 AM

If you do not have any of the pedals, how do you know what they do?

I can tell you that I believe the DI is part of the Hysteria sound.

Until Chris himself tells me otherwise... That is what I am going with, based on what he has on his board, and what was available at the time. Also, based on the video I have seen. The DI is unmistakable.

MADChuudoku · #10 06-16-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ikkim12

i dont have any of those pedals that has been mentioned but i think it's deep impact only for time is running out. hysteria is probabaly big muff and something else. btw well i know it sounds impossible but does anyone have the sample of animato distortion? ive never heard that pedal's sound

play hyper music, sounds just like that with my jazz on some settings.

blizzard · #11 06-16-2008, 08:59 AM

AFAIK Hysteria is just two big muffs run in series.

From what I've read the animato is some kind of nasty nasily fuzz that sounds bad by itself but sounds great if you run dual amps (or maybe with a blend).

JanusZarate · #12 06-16-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blizzard

AFAIK Hysteria is just two big muffs run in series.

AFAIK, he's never used two Big Muffs on his board at the same time... and having tried cascading fuzzes before, that can't be it.

There's only one way to settle these Muse debates...

kaputsport, record a few Muse clips for us, and show us what really works!

dannybuoy · #13 06-16-2008, 10:01 AM

I've seen a clip of him in the studio on Youtube where he says to the camera "2 BIG MUFFS!!!" so maybe he did at some point.

nickbear · #14 06-16-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybuoy

I've seen a clip of him in the studio on Youtube where he says to the camera "2 BIG MUFFS!!!" so maybe he did at some point.

yes on he dvd that came with the special edition of absolution he does briefly say something about two big muffs and i believe its something to do with hysteria... im pretty sure hysteria is all bass guitar.. maybe a mixture of fuzz, DI and a synth pedal blended?

the same dvd also shows chris playing the tiro bassline clean and then someone blending another track on top... i have heard it is a synth of some sort..

Earwaxsculptor · #15 06-16-2008, 01:17 PM

As stated in one of the above posts there is a direct quote from him somewhere where he says there is no synth or fuzz on the bass on that track, he is doubling a line played on a synth, if you listen closely you can hear the synthy sweeping modulation of the notes here and there. If you want to get close try the Guyatone TZ-2 pedal, its almost dead on as far as the upper octave synthy fuzz flavor of that song goes.

Also, IMHO Hysteria is not 2 big muffs cascaded, bunch of snake oil there. It is a big muff along with a Deep Impact, maybe even tracked separately, then combined with all kinds of other slick post production.

Flintlock · #16 06-16-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nickbear

yes on he dvd that came with the special edition of absolution he does briefly say something about two big muffs and i believe its something to do with hysteria... im pretty sure hysteria is all bass guitar.. maybe a mixture of fuzz, DI and a synth pedal blended?

the same dvd also shows chris playing the tiro bassline clean and then someone blending another track on top... i have heard it is a synth of some sort..

On the album version he double tracks, with the clean playing crotchets where the synth plays minims, live he recreates this by playing with a click. I don't know which he plays live, but it sure looks like the synth on HAARP, but I haven't watched that closely.

Hysteria sounds too controlled to be fuzz into a fuzz, even one LBM (supposedly a smooth fuzz) is crazy enough to sound chaotic, to me. I'd stake my left testicle that he's using a sawtooth of some unknown origin.

GingerConor · #17 06-16-2008, 01:43 PM

yeah, wooly mammoth is pretty good for muse stuff

MADChuudoku · #18 06-16-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blizzard

AFAIK Hysteria is just two big muffs run in series.

From what I've read the animato is some kind of nasty nasily fuzz that sounds bad by itself but sounds great if you run dual amps (or maybe with a blend).

no way, i think its a really smoooooth distortion that can go mental too, but it gets a bit thin if you crank the tone.

to me it sounds good without a blend, and acer with one.

it just wasnt what i wanted for my first gain stage.

kaputsport · #19 06-16-2008, 06:47 PM

I am in the studio this week tracking the full length album, I will try and post a link, maybe a youtube video doing hysteria.

I do not have a russian big muff though, so I'll get as close as I can.

BassOverdrive · #20 06-16-2008, 07:25 PM

that song has its own distinct tone really. Its actually split signal through three different amps, one of em being clean bass sound, i dont know if he uses the pedals seperately on the other. I don't know the third one but their producer said it was split into three amps instead of his usually dual amp setup. Thats from an interview with their producer commenting on that tone. I had looked into it a long time ago :P http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec0...b6991bd251e929 i believe this is the link to it