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Old 09-02-2009, 02:19 PM
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clone theory bass clips?

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ive searched and couldnt find, im torn between this and the boss ce-5 clips of both would be nice if anyone has some. thanks
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I've not tried one of these but it's my understanding that they at least used to be pretty noisy.

Someone can chime in as to how the current ones are.
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Awesome, but yes, noisy. I'm considering using mine for some recording, and considering the noise "part of the ambience."
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:29 PM
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I have one on my board currently, although I am looking for something a little less noisy for studio application. Live its great, very lush sounding (the noise is overpowered by the guitarists noise anyways, I say its coming from him )

If the noise is an issue, you could get a pedal for canceling it out, like an ISP Decimator or EHX Hum Debugger- but if you're willing to spend that kind of money you might as well get a better chorus.
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The CE-5 is one of the better Boss chorus's. And, as far as a sound clip for the Clone, imagine a small box, full of snakes. Hisssssssssssss. Too bad, 'cause otherwise, it's a great effect. I'd have the Boss.
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I could put some clips up of the Clone Theory. It may take me a day or two though.

It is noisy. I asked the guys at AnalogMan if they could mod the pedal for me to reduce the noise. They said they couldn't.

I found that the noise is greatly reduced by running the Clone Theory through my X-Blender. I use the X-Blender EQ to minimize the highs. This takes out the hiss and makes it sound really good. But, as an earlier poster said, you might as well just buy a better chorus than do this as a fix.

I'll get some clips up in the next couple of days.
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I could be mistaken, but isn't this the chorus of choice for MysticBoo? If I remember correctly it is, and he has posted a few clips of it in use with the band.
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Yup, it hisses, but, I can't hear it playing with my band, so it doesn't matter. Going in the studio with it later in the month though, so we shall see how it fares then...
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I could be mistaken, but isn't this the chorus of choice for MysticBoo? If I remember correctly it is, and he has posted a few clips of it in use with the band.
I think Boo used to dig it but switched to the Electric Mistress. There are some clips in the Wiki though. I should be off the hook.
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I think Boo used to dig it but switched to the Electric Mistress. There are some clips in the Wiki though. I should be off the hook.
Yeah, I did a few back in the day. As you can probably hear in the recordings, the hiss isn't too overwhelming when used solo, and IME it doesn't wreck a mix. They're still on my Soundclick page (www.soundclick.com/mysticboo) and posted in the Wiki. I'm not too proud of them (they're from my early days of playing), but you'll get the idea.

However, it is hands-down the noisiest chorus pedal I've used without sounding bad. If you love tweeters, you'll hate this pedal.

I really like its unique tone. It's not on my board anymore, but it's still one of my favorites because nothing else sounds like it.

The old Clone Theory from the 80's is very similar in character and sound to the Stereo Clone Theory (the current one). Listen to a little New Order and you'll see what I mean. Their bassist, Peter Hook, had it on virtually all of the time!
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The Clone Theory will definitely give you a "hissy fit". Avoid it! The HBE THC rocks but its pretty $$$.
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I use a clone theory. The hiss is only an issue depending on what sort of context you're using the pedal in.

The most-recent recording I have of it is from a little bit of a jam by a new band I'm in. It's an instrumental version of a new song done in a cramped garage studio, for the sake of trying to string together a couple of song ideas into something resembling a scratch take of an embryonic tune. So... it's FAR from perfect, but good enough to get the basic idea and structure across. We've refined it since then but have yet to record it. Please forgive the guitar player being out of tune, her Stratocaster XII is in desperate need of new strings and a thorough set-up. And the legato synth tone doesn't help with the out-of-tuneness of the whole thing... Neither does my sloppy playing, haha

http://www.esnips.com/doc/e57c723d-5...[untitled]

The hiss-like noise right when I hit my first notes is actually the snare drum chains rattling
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In this clip from my previous band, I use the Clone Theory only during the bridge at about 1:41, and it's kind of buried in the mix...

http://www.esnips.com/doc/b6dc229a-e...lisa---Network
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And lastly, I am kinda hesitant to do this (especially since my playing wasn't too great), but here's a folder with soundfiles from a show my previous band did earlier this year. The sound quality isn't ideal (crappy PA, cramped stage, a less than ideal placement of the recorder, drunk singer) but I did use my Clone Theory on most of it (with the exception of song 7, "New One"). Because of the way things were pointing onstage, and where the recorder was located, it didn't get the best capture of our guitarists amp, and it seemed to get too much of my guitar amp on top of my bass stack (I used it for an overdriven highs and mids and let my bass rig handle the lows). I used my Burns Barracuda (short-scale six-string) for most of the tunes except for the final two, where I used my long-scale Dillon VBMB-04. One some songs (1, 2 and 6) I use the Clone Theory only during some parts.

http://www.esnips.com/web/Razorblade...21February2009

There's even a point in the show where a couple of drunk audience members almost caused a fight because they were messing with and harrassing our singer, and things escalated a bit until the fools were finally escorted out by security...
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Why is it that most of the time when I post clips to threads, the discussions seem to immediately die. I feel like a murderous threadkiller! Eek!
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LOL.

On a related note, I believe that anyone who has a genuine curiosity in the Clone Theory definitely should try one out before they discount it because of its reported hiss. It's one of the only pedals I've used where the noise can be forgiven because of its chorus sound.
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No seriously, I think I scared everyone off or caused them to die of horror with my horrible playing in the clips! haha
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there's actually a video review of it at bassplayer tv.

i owned one a long time back but i just couldn't stand the noise
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