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08-10-2011, 10:08 AM
| | | | Which comes first, the wah or the dirt?
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I've been an advocate of the "wah at the front of your signal" camp for years now, but I recently had to put my synth/envelope pedal first so it triggered every time, no matter where my volume pedal was set at that time. It was easier and more economical, space-wise, to put it before my wah. I'm noticing some volume loss with my wah, which I hadn't expected. I honestly can't say whether or not its any different from before, but it brought up an interesting question in my brain.
should I move my distortion pedal to a spot BEFORE my wah? will this resolve any output issues? it sounds better to say I "wah my distortion" rather than "distort my wah", but idk...
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08-10-2011, 10:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Island, NY | | | drive before wah sounds very synthy and strange. drive after wah sounds "better," or perhaps just more usable for anything other than synth emulation...
theres no correct answer. try both, see what you dig. |
08-10-2011, 11:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rochester, NY | | | Dirt before wah. I find the reverse too subtle for my tastes.
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08-10-2011, 11:07 AM
| | | | I'm about to leave for tour, so it'll be a few weeks before I can mess with this, but we don't have any songs in the set we'll be doing that use the wah in conjunction with any other fx, so I'm good for now.
I'm intrigued by the dist>wah=synthy. I may put a boost in front of the wah to push everything, idk. Might be cool! |
08-10-2011, 11:08 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Highland, CA (Inland Empire) | | | I use dirt,fuzz, OD before my wah for aggressive sweeps and synthy like tones |
08-10-2011, 11:37 AM
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08-10-2011, 11:41 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dallas | | | i don't usually run od or distortion with bass, but back when i played guitar, i'd do it either way--it just depends on what sound you want, ie, do you want to distort your wah or wah your distortion?
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08-10-2011, 11:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Norfolk | | | I can imagine Wah--->distortion being muddy. I'm not sure though.
Ask Jaco, it's what everybody else would do.
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08-10-2011, 02:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winnipeg | | | I love driving my wah with a dist or fuzz pedal.
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08-10-2011, 04:43 PM
|  | Superfast 2.0 | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX | | | IMO anything leading into wah or filter sounds weird/crappy. I've always kept my filters at the front of my chain, but you never know til you try. Experimenting with pedal order won't set your board on fire, honest! |
08-10-2011, 04:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec | | | How about try both & decide for yourself what sounds better to you ears??
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08-10-2011, 04:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ()smoke() ...do you want to distort your wah or wah your distortion? | ^This
Took the words right out of my mouth
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08-10-2011, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ugly_bassplayer How about try both & decide for yourself what sounds better to you ears?? | *EDIT*
I wrote something annoyed in response to this post but took it down. No further comment...
Last edited by ocoaibass : 08-10-2011 at 05:41 PM.
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08-10-2011, 07:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philly Area | | | To get back to the original question, it sounds like your synth and wah are not interacting well together. I'm not sure, but maybe the bypass signal on the synth isn't great, or the wah doesn't like getting hit with a buffered signal... I don't see how adding any dirt in front of the wah would help that.
I personally do not like dirt before wah, but it's clearly a matter of taste, since already this (and any other thread on this topic) always seems to end up a draw...
It's great to learn how things could or should interact, but until you try all the different combinations with your rig you'll never know what works best for you...
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08-10-2011, 08:58 PM
|  | SEX VULTURE | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Normal, IL | | | Dirt before wah, EASILY. Wah before dirt isn't enough imo |
08-10-2011, 08:59 PM
| | | | The synth IS buffered, & the wah is a crybaby for bass, so no TB there either. That may be the issue.
I wish I could find somebody to mod the wah TB. The synth won't mod either! |
08-10-2011, 09:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Valley | | | I prefer my wah before my dirt.......the other way around sounds a bit too quacky, squaky, or synthy to my ears...
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08-11-2011, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Snakeman1066 I prefer my wah before my dirt.......the other way around sounds a bit too quacky, squaky, or synthy to my ears... | + 1
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08-11-2011, 06:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: White Plains | | | Wah before dirt
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08-11-2011, 06:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philly Area | | | I don't think whether or not the wah is TB should be a factor in this problem, if I understand your problem correctly...
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