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11-18-2012, 03:03 AM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | | Compressors after building more than 60 different OD/distortion/fuzz tones, i decided to build a few compressors and surprisingly, i'm happy with all 4 of them that i've built thus far.
back when they first came out (in the 70's) i used to own an Armstrong Orange Squeezer and i really liked it, so i built one from the original schematic. they're not at all flexible, since they're just either on or off, but IMO, they do sound really nice.
the second one that i built is the Rothwell Love Squeeze. I think these are very nice (and quiet too). my build has no low end loss (i don't think the originals do either), but i'm going to add a clean blend circuit to it before i box it up. even on its own i'm pretty happy with it. IMO, it's very smooth and full sounding.
third up is the Keeley 4 knob compressor. stock, it had a slight bit of low end loss so i modded mine for use with a bass and i absolutely love it. with some settings, it can even get up to moderate overdrive sounds out of it that simulates the 'push' of a tube amp at it's sweet spot.
here's a couple of pics of the Keeley clone:
.....and the fourth one that i built is the Emma Transmorgrifier. i also modded this one for no low end loss. IMO, its a great compressor now and is actually capable of heavy overdrive. i plan to mount it in its enclosure tomorrow.
i'll also add a few clips of them in this thread using my trusty p bass.  | 
11-18-2012, 03:48 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big Bethel, Virginia | | | Holy smokes! That's your idea of a HOBBY!? After looking at what you did, I stepped outside and had a smoke. THAT'S my idea of a hobby!
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11-18-2012, 06:01 AM
|  | Sonic Experimentation Gone Mild to Non-Existent Endorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio | | | So, John, if you ever feel the need to just give away a bunch of your pedals, I am sure you could make a lot of money for charity. | 
11-18-2012, 08:55 AM
|  | Registered User Stompbox designer/builder for 3Leaf Audio & Darkglass Electronics | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle | | | You are a pedal building machine. | 
11-18-2012, 08:59 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO | | *waits for the attack of the bongo on this thread*  | 
11-18-2012, 09:12 AM
|  | Registered User Exar went out of business, so... | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | Oh, I don't attack unless there's a grievous failure to read the FAQ or a screed against science.
I'm all in favor of building pedals for personal use.  | 
11-18-2012, 12:43 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO | | Haha...touche! But as planned an entrance has been made  | 
11-18-2012, 08:20 PM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | got the TransMorgrifier boxed today, and i'm really digging this one!
i'll post a couple of soundclips tomorrow...............  | 
11-19-2012, 06:11 AM
|  | Sonic Experimentation Gone Mild to Non-Existent Endorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio | | | John, you should put up a web site with all of your creations. You must br one the prolific personal builds guys around. | 
11-19-2012, 08:12 AM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by caeman John, you should put up a web site with all of your creations. You must br one the prolific personal builds guys around. | well, i already did create a page with a little info and sample soundclips of the dirt pedals that i built for myself which you can view HERE. | 
11-19-2012, 08:18 AM
|  | Sonic Experimentation Gone Mild to Non-Existent Endorsing Artist: Cave Passive Pedals | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio | | | Ah ha! That was the link. | 
11-20-2012, 10:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | I use a Keeley two-knob as an always on comp. Did you really find low end loss with the 4 knob version? Very interested in your take on this design. I happen to think the Keeley two knob is the best comp ever made for bass, though many disagree. What I like about the Keeley is it's tube-like hair that it achieves. I think a dying 9v kind of enhances it, but I may be wrong. I've tried so many comps and still found many of the reviews simply did not mirror my experience when it came to the Keeley. One of Brad Paisley's amp guru's turned me on to them a few years back and I'm glad he did.
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11-20-2012, 10:28 PM
|  | Registered User Exar went out of business, so... | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR | | | The only difference between the two and four knob versions is the placement of two pots: inside or outside.
Re low end loss, it depends on your bass (low E, low B?), your speakers (many can't even reproduce the lows that are cut by the pedal), and of course your expectations. | 
11-20-2012, 10:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bongomania The only difference between the two and four knob versions is the placement of two pots: inside or outside.
Re low end loss, it depends on your bass (low E, low B?), your speakers (many can't even reproduce the lows that are cut by the pedal), and of course your expectations. | Fortunately, as an objective observer, user and human being, my expectations don't play a role in what gear I use  . It works for me or it doesn't. I'm well aware that the two pedals are the same...mine is set slightly different than stock with the inner trim pots, tweaked slightly to accomodate the 'bucking of a split coil, but I think I like the stock setting best. I'm also aware of your reviews on this pedal. I'm interested on what exactly Johnk may have done so I that I may consider such a mod with Robert in the future.
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11-21-2012, 12:31 AM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | | for me the Keeley has just a hint of low end loss, but i wanted it to have none so i just raised the value of the input and output caps to allow more low end thru the circuit. i socketed those two caps and was able to A/B different values on the fly and when i heard the ultra low subs coming thru, i knew it was done. | 
11-21-2012, 12:51 AM
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11-21-2012, 01:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Copenhell | | | So, you only copy an already design? What about your own designs?
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11-21-2012, 02:22 AM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by crguti So, you only copy an already design? What about your own designs? | i've made a few of my own designs, but i also most of the existing designs of the clones that i build for use with a bass (i.e. change their eq points or in the case of overdrives, i change the type and/or amount of clipping). IME, most pedals 'borrow' designs that have been around for years with just a few tweaks here and there. there are a zillion boutique versions of modified big muffs, rat pedals, tube screamers, blues drivers and marshall blues breakers. | 
11-21-2012, 02:23 AM
|  | vintage bass nut John K Custom Basses | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA | | here's the orange squeezer clone with an added volume and blend control:  | 
11-21-2012, 06:22 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hudson Valley, NY | | | Any info on the exact type of input/output caps and placement you swapped out? Love mine, so if there's a way to make it better, I'm all in. Great as is though.
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